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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by mkl on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:37PM (#25075430)
Really? The first release of pip was in 2011 [1] and the earliest release of Conda I can find is 1.1.0 in Nov. 2012 [2], and the first public commit (into an empty repo) was a month earlier [3].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pip_(package_manager)

[2] https://github.com/conda/conda/tags?after=1.3.0

[3] https://github.com/conda/conda/commit/c9aea053d8619e1754b24b...

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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by mixmastamyk on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:30PM (#25076084)
May be anaconda that I'm thinking of.
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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by dragonwriter on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:34PM (#25076136)
Anaconda was released in 2012, as well. Conda is a tool that is part of anaconda.
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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by mixmastamyk on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:37PM (#25076161)
This one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(installer)

I forgive myself, it's pretty confusing :D.

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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by dragonwriter on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:40PM (#25076206)
Ah. Name collisions suck.
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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by mixmastamyk on Thursday November 12, 2020 @06:01PM (#25076445)
Especially when they conceptually do the same thing.
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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by JAlexoid on Friday November 13, 2020 @01:57AM (#25079735)
And that's another issue with Python ecosystem
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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by mixmastamyk on Friday November 13, 2020 @06:37PM (#25088853)
Why do you think Python is more susceptible than other platforms?

It is true that PyPi was designed before the author/project naming scheme popularized by github. Other than that I don't see a greater problem with name collisions in Python.

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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by JAlexoid on Friday November 13, 2020 @11:06PM (#25090212)
Susceptible - yes, all platforms could fall to this.

That's why a strong leadership in a community, or subcommunities, works well. Python lacked this leadership, that leads to millions of half-arsed projects that compete... without moving the whole platform forward. It feels like NIH syndrome has permeated Python. Hopefully that's going to change

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