Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft

Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by divbzero on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:47PM (#25073277)

This is my experience too. I’ve never actually encountered a global dependency conflict with Python pip though in theory it’s possible. But I have encountered the same version conflict problem in dependency chains that exists with Node npm.

And yet, I hear so many more complaints about Python pip and I really don’t understand the disconnect. Perhaps dislike of pip is actually triggered by usability issues? And then people look for other reasons to explain their dislike?

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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by disgruntledphd2 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:46PM (#25074023)

It happens with the data science/scientific programming stack a lot, at least twice in the last month I've pulled in a small dependency that changed my numpy version which broke everything.

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Re:Guido van Rossum joins Microsoft by divbzero on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:15PM (#25074332)

Thanks. I suppose it could be related to the rate of change in the ecosystem. Python’s data science / scientific programming stack definitely changes faster than Python’s web stack which is currently my primary use case.

As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, resolving this dependency issue would require a change in the Python language itself.

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