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Re:macOS Big Sur by kitsunesoba on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:28PM (#25072990)
Desktop Safari has had push notifications since like… 10.9 Mavericks. Only mobile Safari doesn't support them.
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Re:macOS Big Sur by paulgb on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:30PM (#25073015)
I thought this too, but it seems Safari only supports the Notifications API for when a site is open, not Web Push for background notifications?

https://caniuse.com/push-api

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Re:macOS Big Sur by antew on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:37PM (#25073106)
For Safari specifically you have to use Apple's push notification service (APNS), which is a lot of hassle compared to web push.

There is a ticket open for adding support into Safari, but it probably won't happen anytime soon. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182566

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Re:macOS Big Sur by kitsunesoba on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:32PM (#25073041)
Wouldn't this be true for any browser? Unless other browsers leave daemons running at all times, which would be kinda creepy.
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Re:macOS Big Sur by Spivak on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:52PM (#25074081)
Most desktop browsers don't run daemons but they do "soft close" for this feature to work. If you completely kill your browser then notifications and service workers stop working.
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