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Re:You Are Not Free to Move Out of the Country by a2tech on Thursday November 12, 2020 @09:13AM (#25070022)
Living in places is not what we're discussing. Immigration is becoming a citizen of another place. Americans can move almost anywhere. Becoming a CITIZEN is an entire different kettle of fish.

I feel like this is where a lot of misunderstandings in these discussions come from--the difference between being a permanent alien and being a citizen. In the United States there's a process for people to become a full member of our society. There's also a process for being a working alien here. Two different paths that don't have to necessarily overlap.

Re:You Are Not Free to Move Out of the Country by eythian on Thursday November 12, 2020 @09:19AM (#25070094)
In a number of places in Europe (I can't say how many, I've only researched the one I moved to, and know that some others are similar), you need to reside there lawfully for a number of years, in my case five, pass some basic tests of language and culture, and then you can apply for citizenship. That's really about all that's required. It's actually an almost identical process to becoming a permanent resident, which is what I'm aiming for due to no-dual-citizenship requirements.
Re:You Are Not Free to Move Out of the Country by atemerev on Thursday November 12, 2020 @09:17AM (#25070063)
Becoming a citizen in most European countries is a matter of 5 years of living there. The process is straightforward. Here is an example for France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_nationality_law#French_...