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Re:Ableton Live 11 by RickS on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @09:48PM (#25065861)
The push certainly has a deeper integration. I own a gen 1 (they're on 2 now), but rarely use it. In fact I wish your comment were true: I'd like to get some value out of the push, but... meh. In fairness, I've never been a hardware guy, so it's me, not the push, that's a bad fit.

What did they do to cripple the features of non-push interfaces? As far as I know the monomes, apc40s, etc of the world continue to work as they always did?

Pad controllers are dime a dozen. I've never gotten the impression that Ableton was willfully sabotaging the market there.

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Re:Ableton Live 11 by joeevans1000 on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @09:59PM (#25065922)
They aren't sabotaging the market... just trying to get me to buy a Push, I think. Basically, it's easy to do something important with the Push and you can't do it without the Push. I feel you on the value of the Push... it doesn't have any for me other than to be able to create and record a live loop of a specific length on the fly and have it start playing.
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Re:Ableton Live 11 by daniel_reetz on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:27PM (#25066440)
They haven't done anything to cripple other controllers. In fact, they keep adding new classes of controllers all the time -Live 11 now supports MPE.
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