Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Working Class

Re:Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Work... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:07PM (#25060207)

I mostly agree, but:

> ... as the US continues a degradation of democratic ideals and moves closer to authoritarianism.

That depends on what Republican wins. Not all Republicans are Donald Trump-style authoritarians. (For that matter, Obama did quite a bit of rule-by-executive-order, too. If we want that to change, we need to fix the dysfunction in Congress. Presidents more and more almost have to rule by executive order, because Congress has become more and more unwilling or unable to actually do its job.)

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Re:Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Work... by prions on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:20PM (#25060343)

> That depends on what Republican wins. Not all Republicans are Donald Trump-style authoritarians.

The last week of falling behind Trump in that massive election fraud occurred (without any evidence) shows that the GOP is the party of Trump whether they like it or not.

Thinking anything else is delusional.

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Re:Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Work... by amanaplanacanal on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @03:08PM (#25062396)

Only a few national political figures are backing Trump's massive fraud narrative. Most are just saying "he has the right to recounts, and let's see how it plays out." Because they know he is full of shit but don't want to piss off their voters.

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Re:Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Work... by sanp on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @04:49PM (#25063443)

So, if passing off Trump passes off Republican voters then they (political figures) are beholden to Trump...

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Re:Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Work... by hn_throwaway_99 on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:19PM (#25060337)

> Not all Republicans are Donald Trump-style authoritarians.

Perhaps not all, but I've been pretty shocked, and dismayed, about how feckless Republican senators and congressmen have been when it comes to pushing back against Trump's most dictatorial impulses. It's like "Profiles in Cowardice". That's actually what scares me the most, how someone with such transparent disdain for democracy as Trump has managed to get the Republican congressional leadership to rollover and be his lapdog.

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Re:Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Work... by tbihl on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:23PM (#25060380)

I'm a little worried that Trump wasn't just an aberration, but rather was just first of a new breed. Thinking back on the Republican playing field in 2016, I don't know that any of the other candidates could have handled the media abuse as well as Trump did, and in failing that most first prerequisite for a republican president, they couldn't have gotten very far.

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Re:Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Work... by DobryMorozov on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @08:17PM (#25065211)

He's the new standard. I don't think his supporters would vote for someone that's more of an eloquent speaker like Mitt Romney. In fact, I believe Alex Jones has a better chance of winning the primary and I'm completely serious

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