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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by skrause on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @03:31AM (#25056570)
Even worse is that the RAM upgrade pricing hasn't changed in almost a decade.

When I bought my 2012 MacBook Air more than eight years ago it cost me 100 euros to upgrade from 4 to 8 GB of RAM.

Currently it costs 225 euros in the German Apple Store to upgrade form 8 to 16 GB, which is a higher per GB price than in 2012!

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by scoopertrooper on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @05:05AM (#25057086)
That's (slightly) unfair because obviously the RAM produced in 2012 isn't the same as the RAM produced in 2020. Better to compare Apple's price against the cost of top-of-the-line RAM available for other laptops. I checked around and it looks like you can get 8GB 3200MHz DDR4 from a highly respected brand for 56 USD, while Apple will sell you some mystery RAM for 200 USD. It's not an (ahem) apples-to-apples comparison because the Apple RAM is closely integrated with the SOC, but I think it's fair to say they're making a comfortable margin.

https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-HX424S14IB2-2400MHz-Unbuffered...

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by Shivetya on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @08:27AM (#25058161)
Do we truly believe that on die memory has similar costs? I don't see how this is remotely possible but its going to take tear downs of both configurations to check what is going on; as in are the 8gb units using chips which never had the circuitry or perhaps disabled by hardware and its still there?
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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by alexott on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @03:48AM (#25056668)
I upgraded my MacBook in 2012 from 4 to 16gb for 110 euro... Just put new memory even before first booting
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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by nfin on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @04:12AM (#25056815)
it seens that RAM is now in the package, making it very very hard (almost impossible in practical terms) to upgrade.

Right? Or did I miss something?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by alexott on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @04:47AM (#25056997)
yes, right now memory is built-in into the motherboard... So you need to buy overpriced memory from Apple (and it makes me think about leaving Apple platform)
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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by tallanvor on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @06:44AM (#25057543)
With the new macs, the RAM is on the chip. So even the mini can't be upgraded once you buy it.
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