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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by CydeWeys on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:35PM (#25053004)
The median Macbook user is not a developer. A web browser and videocalling are the only two from that list you'd expect the median user to be doing with a Macbook.
Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by dmitriid on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @06:36PM (#25053596)
1. The market those as "Pro"

2. Their entire presentation focuses on editing large image files, editing 4k video, machine learning, and graphics-intensive games (games were mentioned more than anything else)

So, given how these are marketed, they are extremely low on RAM and storage.

Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by rbanffy on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:53PM (#25053180)
Also Office. Lots of open Word documents.

My "typical Mac user" in this case, is my wife. Her 8GB MBP is holding up very well.

Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by domano on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @06:14PM (#25053376)
Does macOS handle memory in a way where it just lets RAM fill up to some point before actively doing something about it? Because on my 16gig Macbook 8 gigs are gone just with browsing & spotify.
Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by snazz on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @08:22PM (#25054502)
Yes. If you run vm_stat in the Terminal, you can see how few pages of RAM are actually left free at any given time. Modern operating systems aggressively cache files in RAM to improve performance.

The green/yellow/red graph in the Memory tab of Activity Manager is the best way of seeing if you need more RAM at a glance. In my experience, macOS won't do any swapping in the green. In the yellow, the system is still pretty usable but there's some swapping going on. When it turns red, your SSD will be getting thrashed pretty hard.

Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by domano on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:50AM (#25059999)
Thanks for the hint!
Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by foldr on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @07:07PM (#25053883)
They're not really "gone", they've just been put to use because there's no point in leaving RAM empty. You can do much more than run a browser and Spotify with 8GB of RAM.
Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by domano on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:50AM (#25059993)
Thanks, memory stats sure look different than with linux. Switched a short while back & was surprised, but that would explain it.
Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by CydeWeys on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @09:19PM (#25054852)
It's a good question -- do most people still use desktop office suites these days? I don't know the answer. I use the Google Docs suite for both work and for personal stuff, and I personally haven't seen the need to pay for Office in awhile.
Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by alexchantavy on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @06:05PM (#25053294)
Google Docs and Slides browser tabs can take a decent amount of resources too.