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Re:(Ubuntu) 11.04, a leap forward by mkelly on Monday May 02, 2011 @01:38AM (#2505275)
One of the great things about Linux in general is that this is non-news plenty of users who don't use the default window manager anyway. Prefer something else? Just switch. You're not married to the window manager like you are on OS X and Windows. I'm very happy for that.

(Edit: I should clarify that I'm writing this in anticipations that the general sentiment will be that Unity is terrible. If you don't think it's terrible, then it's also not an issue.)

Re:(Ubuntu) 11.04, a leap forward by jamesbritt on Monday May 02, 2011 @02:14AM (#2505380)
Indeed. I just installed 10.10 on a Thinkpad W500 using the Trinity KDE3 dstro.

I ever cared for Gnome; lack of easy menu hacking and navigation and not being able to set different backgrounds for each desktop were among my peeves.

KDE4 didn't work for me, either. Too much slickness for stuff I had no use for.

Lucky for me some smart, motivated people decided to keep KDE3 alive. My eternal thanks to them.

A downside is that most often when I search for help on something it ends up being how-to in Gnome or maybe KDE4, but with a bi of digging I find what command line invocation to run or what config file needs editing.

Truly a great thing to be able to have such a range of UI options (and every so often I try xmonad) while under the hood it's same hackable OS.

Re:(Ubuntu) 11.04, a leap forward by pers3us on Monday May 02, 2011 @02:30AM (#2505424)
I think you should give Openbox or Fluxbox or LXDE a try. A lot many features to customize, and initially it will be pain in the ass, but eventually you will be satisfied.
Re:(Ubuntu) 11.04, a leap forward by jamesbritt on Monday May 02, 2011 @03:09AM (#2505508)
Thanks for the suggestions. I've tried a few others, and have decided that KDE3.5 works quite well enough for most things, and I've gotten accustomed to the annoyances, so I'm good.

But the really nice thing is I can always toss on a new WM or whatever and try it out with very little trouble.

Re:(Ubuntu) 11.04, a leap forward by drdaeman on Monday May 02, 2011 @06:54AM (#2505824)
One bad thing about GNU/Linux is with the current direction of things, at some point in time we won't have this easy anymore.

IMHO the complexity gets a bit too high, and cost of maintaining forks gets too big, so even free licensing does not really matter anymore. One has to be very motivated, to keep up with his fork.

Re:(Ubuntu) 11.04, a leap forward by rjbond3rd on Monday May 02, 2011 @10:52PM (#2508805)
What's the complexity you're referring to? I don't see it.

Having lots of choice for window managers is decades old and completely normal. It's modular and it continues to get easier. I don't see any burden but perhaps I misunderstand.

Re:(Ubuntu) 11.04, a leap forward by drdaeman on Tuesday May 03, 2011 @08:20AM (#2509663)
I were thinking of complexity of patching the software and keeping up with upstream (i.e. maintaining a fork).

I just have a feeling (highly subjective, sorry) that some major GNU/Linux distros (especially Ubuntu) are turning from a distribution of loose coupled exchangeable components to monolithic tightly-integrated products.

Well, Debian seems perfectly fine in this regard, so even as Ubuntu user (for now) I don't care much about the situation. Sorry - I were wrong writing like this was about the whole GNU/Linux ecosystem.