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Re:On Apple's Piss-Poor Documentation by dragonwriter on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @01:17PM (#25049140)
> The MSDN documentation has always been freely available

No, it hasn't. It was originally available exclusively to subscribers, and only on CD. MSDN started before the web existed.

Eventually, the documentation became free on the web.

Re:On Apple's Piss-Poor Documentation by qayxc on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:58PM (#25052567)
> It was originally available exclusively to subscribers

No it wasn't - the subscription service shipped CDs (and later DVDs) with technical articles, updated SDKs and the like. The actual documentation was always included with every Visual Studio version on the installation discs.

I remember quite vividly the "joy" of re-installing the latest version because the documentation format was incompatible between releases and you could either reinstall the new version from disc (which took ages) or convert the already installed one (which also took ages, but not quite as long as juggling 4 CDs - it had to "rebuild the index" or some nonsense like that IIRC).

So if you owned a physical copy of any Visual Studio edition, you also had the documentation and thus no need to subscribe to MSDN (apart from the technical columns, SDK updates and the magazine, which any reasonable boss would allow you to read during work hours).

Re:On Apple's Piss-Poor Documentation by throwaways885 on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @01:33PM (#25049351)
That's a bit unfair. The web is what made it easy to publish at no cost, CD's still had mail and print costs associated so it made sense to send documentation with the software packages it... documented.
Re:On Apple's Piss-Poor Documentation by dragonwriter on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:20PM (#25050338)
What's unfair? It's an accurate actual description with no value judgement.

You seem to be arguing against a negative value judgement which I did not make, or even suggest.

Re:On Apple's Piss-Poor Documentation by bluGill on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @03:13PM (#25051223)
Perhaps, but they didn't charge $3 for the CD, which is about the incremental cost of making a copy and mailing it out would be.