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Re:McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu by dkersten on Monday November 09, 2020 @07:53PM (#25041784)
> The Italian styles with minimal cheese are a disappointment to me.

Have you had one in Italy? Personally, I quite like American style pizza, but the Italian style I still find has a more interesting flavour profile and therefore I tend to prefer it.

Re:McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu by hated on Monday November 09, 2020 @09:25PM (#25042283)
As far as I am concerned the Neapolitan pizza is the only real pizza. Compare it to the archetypical Dominoes Margherita pizza. American variants of "pizza" definitely deliver melted cheese, tomato sauce, and heated bread in large quantities but the layers of flavor that you find in a faithful reproduction of Neapolitan pizza to the Italian standard are completely missing. One of the first things Americans will notice in an appropriate Neapolitan pizza is that the cheese does not flood the pizza. Its quantity is reduced to appropriately contrast and compliment the thin layer of tomato sauce. And keep those wet veggies off my pizza.
Re:McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu by libraryatnight on Monday November 09, 2020 @11:56PM (#25042922)
You do realize you can share a preference without all the condescension and gate-keeping, right?
Re:McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu by chris-orgmenta on Monday November 09, 2020 @11:01PM (#25042714)
I suppose it's worth noting that the Neapolitan pizza can only have been in existence since 1548 at the earliest, and there are probably more 'real'/traditional pizzas sans tomato
Re:McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu by ReptileMan on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:32AM (#25043576)
Actually Neapolitan pizza is 170 years old. Flatbreads have been around for millennia.

So pizza in Naples is only slightly older than pizza in Little Italy in NYC. It arrives in USA in 1890s

The main problem is that in the great american convenience rush of the 50-s, 60-s etc the tradition is overwhelmed by mass pizza from the chains. And what becomes mass pizza (especially delivered) is inferior product. We have lower baking temperatures, start pumping the dough with oil, sugar and whatnot to get some browning. To compensate for lack of flavor in the dough you start putting all kinds of toppings on top and too many of them. Upping the calories to insane levels to compensate for their flavorlessness.

I think that when people dish out on American pizza they don't mean NYC, New Haven, Chicago or Detroit styles but Dominos and Pizza Hut at their worst.

Re:McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu by chris-orgmenta on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @06:33PM (#25053562)
"Actually Neapolitan pizza is 170 years old."

That's interesting, I'm annoyed at my shortcut/assumption in my head that a) it would be older than 170 yrs and b) that there wouldn't be a clear historical record of the exact date. Although, cooked down tomatoes, flatbread etc. presumably met under a different name before that

Re:McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu by _ZeD_ on Monday November 09, 2020 @11:29PM (#25042818)
Sorry its hystory it's just shy of 500 years?