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Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by anticensor on Monday November 09, 2020 @01:47AM (#25032029)
What about this tech-agnostic version: citizens have a right to deprive the unrelated citizens from accessing their communications using any means. Note that this includes E2E encryption, whisper, face-to-face private conversation, rubberhose encryption, noise insertion and steganography all in one.
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Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by feanaro on Monday November 09, 2020 @02:58AM (#25032367)
I like this "right to deprive" wording and toyed with it myself. Reminds me of the way DMCA anti-circumvention works. Perhaps we could call this the anti-snooping right.
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Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by anticensor on Monday November 09, 2020 @07:07AM (#25033898)
Anti-snooping would be much more useful than anti-circumvention in fact.
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Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by kebman on Monday November 09, 2020 @04:03AM (#25032812)
Some idiot will cut off someones ears and then say to the police that, "it was to deprive him of accessing our communications by using any means. It says so in the law, Sir!"
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Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by anticensor on Monday November 09, 2020 @05:28AM (#25033310)
It would still be criminal on the grounds of breaking the bodily integrity, which is an infringement of someone else's life and health, which is normally considered more protected than privacy.
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Re:EU Draft Council Declaration Against Encryption [pdf] by kebman on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:08PM (#25039275)
I think you underestimate the amounts of rain dance magic lawyers can produce with wording like "using any means." ;)
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