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Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by tayo42 on Sunday November 08, 2020 @12:14AM (#25023230)
Awareness and consciousness is different then responding to stimulus.

> Even a single cell is alive. You have really drifted from textbook science at this point.

We're not talking about human cells being alive. were talking about the whole organism being considered alive and its own thing.

Talking about whether an organism that can not exist independently of its host, that hasn't experienced life yet can be aborted by that host.

It feels like your being disingenuous arguing semantics like cell life with me. Yes cells are live, no the organism is not an independent thing with its own rights. An nonviable fetus is not a fully grown human, this isn't killing babies.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by combatentropy on Sunday November 08, 2020 @12:37AM (#25023334)
> Awareness and consciousness is different then responding to stimulus.

This is not some clump of cells that "responds to stimulus" before birth and magically becomes "conscious and aware" after birth. It doesn't even line up with fetal viability.

> We're not talking about human cells being alive. were talking about the whole organism being considered alive and its own thing.

The whole organism is alive and its own thing from conception. This is undisputed among biologists.