Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ...
by johndevor on Saturday November 07, 2020 @10:21PM
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The leader of the proud boys is black.
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Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ...
by epistasis on Saturday November 07, 2020 @10:40PM
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I have no idea if that is true or not, but it is irrelevant because it is quite possible for black people to be racist and also to take part in anti-black racism.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ...
by Consultant32452 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:49PM
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The proud boys leaders name is Enrique Tario, he's afro-hispanic I believe. Regardless, the proud boys appear to be a multiracial group of Western chauvinists, believing that Western ideas and culture are superior. Progressives seem to believe that Western = white, and that is how they make the leap to white supremacy in this context. Whether Western is about ideas vs skin color isn't a debate I'm interested in, just wanted to provide context.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ...
by zjs on Sunday November 08, 2020 @03:17AM
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> Progressives seem to believe that Western = white, and that is how they make the leap to white supremacy in this context.
I'll note that my comment did not directly link proud boys to "white supremacy". Instead, I (and the comment I replied to) used "right-wing extremists". I think that's an accurate description that does not require an assumption that "Western = white".
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ...
by Consultant32452 on Sunday November 08, 2020 @09:28AM
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I agree that's what you said. Conversely, Trump was asked about them specifically in the context of white supremacy.
For anyone curious about their beliefs:
https://proudboysusa.com/tenets/
Minimal Government
Maximum Freedom
Anti-Political Correctness
Anti-Drug War
Closed Borders
Anti-Racial Guilt
Anti-Racism
Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment)
Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)
Glorifying the Entrepreneur
Venerating the Housewife
Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism