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Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by enraged_camel on Saturday November 07, 2020 @07:56PM (#25021653)
On the contrary, this type of "both side-ism" is exactly what sabotages honest discussion. The sides are not anywhere near equal in their willingness to use violence to achieve their means.

One side has leftists rioting in the streets and looting storefronts. The other side has conservatives plowing their cars through liberal protestors at full speed and murdering them.

One side has leftists setting police cars on fire. The other side has conservatives plotting to kidnap and/or murder mayors and governors.

One side has leftists throwing milkshakes at so-called "independent journalists". The other side has political candidates bodyslamming real journalists.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by manigandham on Saturday November 07, 2020 @08:00PM (#25021677)
No, it's the concept of "sides" that sabotages honest discussion. It's just extremists who are very loud and amplified by others. They do not represent the majority in the middle.

There is no group with better humans. It's a failure of context, nuance and understanding if you think so.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by catlifeonmars on Saturday November 07, 2020 @08:39PM (#25021958)
Exactly. Side-ism — or the uncritical oversimplification of the complexity that is American politics and American demographics - is about as useful as racism. Honestly, what’s it good for?
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by XorNot on Saturday November 07, 2020 @08:40PM (#25021963)
No there absolute is: it's the side which hasn't ongoingly and repeatedly attempted to murder members of the other.

Property is not lives, and your "but the middle!" is meaningless: the middle if it exists is a group of people going "well, someone's dead, but also what about that vacant Wendy's?"

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by shadowgovt on Saturday November 07, 2020 @09:01PM (#25022083)
There may be no group with better humans, but ideologies can be better or worse.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by manigandham on Saturday November 07, 2020 @09:04PM (#25022099)
"Ideologies" are just as bad as "sides".

Nobody really thinks that way. Better to discuss individual policies which will show that the vast majority of people comprise a complex mix of perspectives.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by tetrometal on Saturday November 07, 2020 @08:09PM (#25021745)
I'm not going to engage with you in this violence score-keeping exercise, but I will say that it should be apparent to anyone capable of popping their media bubble that you are cherry-picking.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by enraged_camel on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:29PM (#25022991)
You're always free to show us examples of leftists plowing their cars into conservative protesters.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by kortilla on Sunday November 08, 2020 @01:40AM (#25023629)
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by zajio1am on Saturday November 07, 2020 @09:31PM (#25022256)
> One side has leftists setting police cars on fire. The other side has conservatives plotting to kidnap and/or murder mayors and governors.

There were also assassination attempts from the other side:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Donald_Trump_Las_Vegas_ra...

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by dodobirdlord on Sunday November 08, 2020 @01:40AM (#25023630)
The first one is a good example. The second one is about a mentally ill British man whose "assassination attempt" never had any chance of success.

Should we count as political violence the plot to kill Barack Obama with a "death ray"? I think there's a distinction to be drawn between political violence and crazy people being crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_B...

Interestingly, reading the pages you linked and dredging up the Death Ray link induced me to notice that (1) the previous shooting of a Congressperson was by a right-wing terrorist, and (2) that page about Obama recounts something like 6 very real plots to kill him mixed in among a bunch of variously mentally ill people being delusional. I think it's pretty clear which way the wind blows here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting