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Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by nemothekid on Saturday November 07, 2020 @02:18PM (#25017866)
I don't think he missed it. IIRC he was appropriately briefed early enough. I just think he vastly underestimated how bad it would be, and once he realized he was wrong, he brand of machismo prevented him from actual showing a strong virus response.

Even during the peak, his team was still trying to play political games (by denying "blue states" federal resources to show it was democratic mismanagement). I think, if he truly made a strong showing (or was at least consistent in his message) he would have blown out Biden.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by qwerty1234599 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @02:35PM (#25018145)
Trump literally would've won had he had sent free red MAGA masks to every American in March/April.

It was the perfect missed opportunity

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by klyrs on Saturday November 07, 2020 @03:04PM (#25018605)
He did one better, by signing the stimulus checks and branding the CDC guideline mailer. If those stimulus checks kept coming, I think he'd have won handily.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by jimmygrapes on Saturday November 07, 2020 @09:20PM (#25022186)
I tend to agree, and I think that is also why no such further checks were issued. Pelosi would not let Trump have that win, at the expense of the people's wellbeing, and the play worked. Not sure how supporters justify that with all the talk of empathy... maybe "it was worth it in the long run"?
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by baumandm on Sunday November 08, 2020 @01:52AM (#25023678)
This is not accurate. The HEROES Act was passed by Pelosi and the House of Representatives in May, and it would have included stimulus checks. It was never brought to a vote in the Senate.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/06/heres-how-much-you-could-get...

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by lordnacho on Saturday November 07, 2020 @02:35PM (#25018147)
The thing is he could also have done a macho move by ordering a huge lockdown, have military on the streets, but control the message the way he normally does: claim he was in early, say the economy would have been worse if he hadn't, blame China, point fingers at BLM for defying his orders, and so on.

That seems to fit just as well with his playbook, he just went for the wrong pill.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by notahacker on Saturday November 07, 2020 @03:13PM (#25018735)
I think huge lockdowns would have pissed off his base to a greater degree than it would have reassured wavering conservatives. But just shutting up and making sure that his name was on the stimulus checks would have been enough to see him home.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by makomk on Saturday November 07, 2020 @03:30PM (#25018942)
So, assume Trump had a huge lockdown and put military on the streets, trashing the economy, running roughshod over the states, and playing into every narrative about being a totalitarian. Then what? We know from countries in Europe tha tried lockdowns that Covid would just be back in full force by the time of the election. It'd make him look both dictatorial and ineffective, a self-proclamed germophobe that tried to send an army to fight a virus and lost, a paper tiger.
Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by lordnacho on Saturday November 07, 2020 @03:50PM (#25019167)
In Europe, it went way down before coming back strongly. In the US, it just stayed big and grew.

The thing about doing something is you can always claim what you did was necessary. It's asymmetric. Do nothing, and if the problem doesn't go away you're an idiot. Do something, and if the same thing happens you can claim it would have been worse if you hadn't. There's always some example somewhere you can abuse to say whatever you want.

Whether someone did badly depends on expectations about how it would have gone if they had done otherwise. Like in sports, you judged less harshly if you lose to the favourite. If you let the "otherwise" happen, people complain that you let it happen.

"Something must be done. This is something. Therefore it must be done."

Note I'm saying nothing at all about what ought to be done about the virus, just how to handle the PR.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by nemothekid on Saturday November 07, 2020 @05:14PM (#25020087)
>trashing the economy,

The economy, or by Trump's barometer, the stock market, would have been fine. The Fed juiced the economy and then some, SPY is currently trading at pre-COVID all time highs.

Secondly, it's much harder to pin the blame on ~230,000 Americans dead to negligence if Trump actually took some action. Even if COVID came back in full force, you could then say that we have successfully flattened the curve and are now much better at treating the virus.

Re:Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided ... by zmmmmm on Saturday November 07, 2020 @03:38PM (#25019036)
Great leaders often work entirely from hunches and gut feeling. I think his whole life he did that and so far he got away with it. So along comes COVID and he simply went with his hunch even in the face of an overwhelming amount of contrary scientific and medical evidence.