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Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by miles on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:45AM (#25016152)
> The purpose of existing drug laws, especially marijuana, is to give police a reason to harass and discriminate against certain populations.

Japan is largely homogenous and has very harsh drug penalties:

Japan drug law among world’s toughest, personal possession attracts five-year jail https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-b...

Why Japan Is So Strict About Drugs https://kotaku.com/why-japan-is-so-strict-about-drugs-183328...

Drug Laws in Japan: You'd Better Have a Prescription https://www.tofugu.com/japan/drug-laws-in-japan/

Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by devenblake on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:58AM (#25016261)
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by bluedino on Saturday November 07, 2020 @12:03PM (#25016304)
So what’s the purpose of them in Japan?
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by x86_64Ubuntu on Saturday November 07, 2020 @04:00PM (#25019292)
We don't have to explain the purpose of the laws in Japan to prove their purpose in the United States.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by mistermann on Saturday November 07, 2020 @07:27PM (#25021384)
Has an actual proof been provided of their purpose in the United states? I see only a theory.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by refurb on Sunday November 08, 2020 @09:57AM (#25026147)
Japan offers an alternative explanation.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by grawprog on Saturday November 07, 2020 @01:41PM (#25017318)
Most of them were instated after the US occupation of Japan post-world war 2. At the time they served the purpose of asserting America's control over Japan. What purpose they serve there now, who knows?
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by Ericson2314 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @01:15PM (#25017038)
It's unclear what purpose they serve in Japan. That doesn't make it less clear in the US.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by scrose on Saturday November 07, 2020 @01:09PM (#25016987)
Japan is a different country, with different cultures, values and history. Answering ‘whataboutism’ type of questions almost always leads to an endless loop of accomplishing nothing.

What about Russia? What about China? Etc... There is no value in these questions when they have no relation to the original statement being made.

Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by loeg on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:46AM (#25016161)
GP's comment can of course be read more correctly as "the purpose of existing drug laws (in the US), ..."
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by rayiner on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:52AM (#25016205)
Sweden has harsh drug laws too. So does China. The point is that there are other reasons people favor drug laws, since many homogenous countries have them too.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by heavyset_go on Saturday November 07, 2020 @12:49PM (#25016775)
And yet the literal tons of fentanyl and fentanyl derivatives that are swamping black markets in the US and killing thousands are almost exclusively manufactured in China and shipped to the US.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by Der_Einzige on Saturday November 07, 2020 @01:51PM (#25017458)
I'd take 10 years in a swedish prison over 3 months in a US prison...
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by jahaja on Saturday November 07, 2020 @02:02PM (#25017614)
"Harsh" is very relative. I would be very surprised to see anyone caught using drugs for the first time, or even the 3rd time, not just getting a fine unless they're in possession of a larger quantity. The maximum sentence is 3 years, which I would assume would require a substantial criminal record.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by shmel on Saturday November 07, 2020 @12:28PM (#25016557)
China also has concentration camps. Just saying...
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by refurb on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:52AM (#25016216)
Canada had very harsh drug laws too (at least for hard drugs). And so did much of Europe.

Did all those countries also create those laws to harass certain populations?

Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by masklinn on Saturday November 07, 2020 @11:58AM (#25016256)
How many did basically at the behest of the US? The US very much lead the crusade on drugs criminalisation after WWII.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday November 07, 2020 @01:22PM (#25017093)
All of them, it's part of the founding UN treaties, as far as I know.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by retrac on Saturday November 07, 2020 @03:46PM (#25019128)
The People's Republic of China has maintained its draconian anti-drug stance since before the international drug conventions of the 60s and 70s.

I would concur much of the puritanism and authoritarianism around the world about drugs originates from the US, but hardly all of it.

Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by refurb on Sunday November 08, 2020 @09:58AM (#25026157)
They were actually agreed upon by the UN. It didn’t take the US to convince other countries to make drugs illegal.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by rjknight on Saturday November 07, 2020 @12:10PM (#25016373)
In many cases yes: European attitudes towards the lower classes are often similar to (though not as extreme as) racist attitudes in the US.
Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by tpxl on Saturday November 07, 2020 @12:52PM (#25016797)
Lots of European countries (and probably the rest of the world) also copy US laws for no apparent reason.

More or less everyone I know has tried drugs (MJ, magic mushrooms, LSD) or does them on a regular basis, but I don't know anyone who's ever been arrested over it. What I'm saying is there doesn't seem to be (much) of a stigma against drugs, neither with the population, nor with the cops. Nevertheless, MJ is illegal, and the protests for legalization started soon after the ones in the US.

Re:Voters rejecting the war on drugs is a win for public health by brodo on Saturday November 07, 2020 @02:57PM (#25018505)
> Japan is largely homogenous While that's true I always like to remind people of the Ainu people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people). They are an example of a suppressed (largely extinct) ethnic group in Japan. Basically Japan's native Americans.

Aside from that, drug prohibition has always been used to h arras people on a basis of their class background. The working and caring classes always take the main toll in prohibition.