Re:What's so great about Go?
by jitl on Friday November 06, 2020 @09:08PM
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In some ways Kotlin’s heritage from JetBrains is a disincentive to make this simple, batteries-included build/run/test/deps tool - most language users and the language producers have the IDE itself playing this role.
I hope that as Kotlin multi-platform matures, we’ll see more stand-alone, Unix-y tooling for the language. As is, it seems very challenging to do a Kotlin project without a (JetBrains) IDE handling initial project set-up, Repl, build, run, test, and all the Gradle malarkey.
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Technically you can use Gradle from the command line. Gradle isn't pretty though. `gradle init` for a simple Kotlin hello-world application generates 20+ files and folders, which to me is an incredible amount of bloat. Not exactly Unix-y. Agreed about Kotlin being made by JetBrains being a negative. It's a great language, but only working with one IDE, JetBrains', is a trap I'd rather not be in. They seem to be on the wrong side of history with the Language Server Protocol becoming more popular every day.