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Re:Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service by eldaisfish on Friday November 06, 2020 @09:21AM (#25007738)
You've forgotten one major aspect of life so far north - the near absolute lack of sunlight in the winter which is about 5 months of the year.

My first year in Finland, i got SAD - seasonal affective disorder - and it was horrible. No amount of money or learning Finnish can address that. Oh and there's yet another downside to an ethnically homogenous society like Finland - you'll never be more than a tolerated person if you are a visible minority. Someone who's visibly different will never be a fully equal member of society.

Personally, this is why i much prefer life in the US or Canada despite all their downsides.

Re:Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service by lytefm on Friday November 06, 2020 @11:14AM (#25008691)
SAD is definitely a thing. Certain Lamps and Vitamins do help, though - so does a walk during lunchtime. I'll always prefer fewer sun hours during Winter over regular > 25°c (77°F) during summer.

I'm surprised about the second point though. Outside Helsinki, sure - but in HKI I've met enough non-white people who grew up there, speak Finnish and didn't feel like that at all. I felt like the language is more important for being considered a „proper Finn”.

Re:Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service by eldaisfish on Friday November 06, 2020 @01:15PM (#25009796)
Non-white immigration to Finland is relatively recent and has only been in small numbers so i think what you're referring to is just an anecdote. The immigration of Somali groups in particular has led to quite a lot of friction as detailed in this report

https://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kotimaa/sk-tutki-suomalaise...

See this page also - https://multiculturalmeanderings.com/tag/nordic-countries/

In particular,

>The 2020 OECD report about Finland criticizes that their education is unevenly distributed. In an interview with the HPR, Michaela Moua, a senior officer at the Office of the Non-Discrimination Ombudsman in Finland, recognizes racially motivated guidance in schools, especially in the Finnish as Second Language studies: “Black and Brown students are often advised to take these classes even if Finnish is their first language.”

>She adds that “this shows how it is still widely thought that one cannot be a person of color and Finnish at the same time.”

At the heart of the problem is that Finnish identity overlaps significantly with Finnish ethnicity. So yes, i think your anecdotes are the exception, not the norm.