Looking at the Finland pensions [1], I'd think you would like to save extra for retirement. Max government pension is less than SSA benefit in the USA (€1,368 vs $3,113)

[1] https://www.etk.fi/en/finnish-pension-system/pension-securit...

You can easily have a €4K/mo pension in Finland without private savings. It depends on how much you earned.

Calculator https://www.tyoelake.fi/sv/pensionsraknaren/

I've entered €6K/mo (the senior eng salary mentioned in this discussion, aka top 10% salary in Finland) and used €1414 accrued pension (* median value from the table for a person born in 1960) and got €1.9/mo for someone close to retirement.

So far I am not sure how easy it is to get to 4K/mo.

But my point was more about you mentioning retirement savings only for US workers. While median income earners will get very similar government pensions in both countries.

Yes obvioiusly the pension you get in a country is related to how many years you worked in that country. If I moved to Finland I too would get a lower pension than others when I retire in 25 years, but on the other hand I’d be getting a pension from the first 20 years of my career in my home country too. Taken together they’d (unsurprisingly) add up to the €4K or so I expect to get.

Similarly if you move there from a country with lower taxes/pensions such as the US you’d probably bring savings to compensate that you missed a number of years.

After all, these pensions based on number of years worked is often just a form of mandated savings from employers payroll taxes.

I think you have misunderstood me. The fact that someone worked their whole life while living in Finland is accounted for. I.e. the link you've shared includes average amount of accrued pension for each birth year. So if someone was born in 1960, joined workforce around 20 y.o., worked for 40 years they would have in average about €1414. If they continue to work until retirement earning 6K, their pension will grow to 1.9K.

If this 4K/mo is easily achievable only if you have another pension from a more generous country, then it is not proving your point much.

Strange, if I enter my birth year (late 70s), 6K salary and the average 1978 figure from the table below it comes out to 3.5k