Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by TenJack on Friday November 06, 2020 @03:58AM
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I wonder if he just doesn't have a good enough grasp of the English language to articulate his ideas well enough. I would go as far to say that no self-made billionaire is stupid.
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Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by arcticbull on Friday November 06, 2020 @03:59AM
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> I would go as far to say that no self-made billionaire is stupid.
Making money is far more about luck than skill. Always has been. Net worth is not a proxy for ability.
[edit] Don't get me wrong I'm not saying billionaires are idiots. I'm just saying that having a fat stack is not in and of itself a proxy for aptitude. Judge that on the person instead. Just judging them on their bank balance is an unnecessary appeal to authority that hasn't historically held.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by Pungsnigel on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:01AM
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I'd say normally it requires both, or extreme levels of either. Not sure normal rules apply under CCP though.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by cambalache on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:17AM
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Not necessarily.You need to be smart, but not in the sense HN thinks.A charismatic, charming person can become quite wealthy if luck and connections help and still be very dumb by conventional standards. People like Kim Kardashian.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by dlkf on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:04AM
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I'll raise you to extreme levels of both.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by manigandham on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:00AM
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That may be the case for millionaires in the right place at the right time but not for the self-made billionaires.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by WanderPanda on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:44AM
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I would still argue net worth is a unbiased (if you discount for corruption) proxy for ability (in the sense of ability to create wealth = products and services that people demand). It is extremely high variance though
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by seniorivn on Friday November 06, 2020 @10:57AM
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your discount is everything if corruption is the most important part of the equation
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by throwaway29303 on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:50AM
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From the article:
Ma, a former English teacher, is one of China’s internet pioneers, building an e-commerce empire with Alibaba and a fintech giant with Ant.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by onetimemanytime on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:56AM
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>>I would go as far to say that no self-made billionaire is stupid.
Stupid is a loaded word, but you can be a genius in chemistry and not be able to hold a "normal" conversation. You can also be homeless and super-smart.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by AJRF on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:04AM
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His grasp of English is pretty decent, he was a lecturer at Hangzhou Dianzi University in English and International trade.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by Vinnl on Friday November 06, 2020 @05:35AM
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Just looked at a bit of the linked video, and his English sounded fine, but at about, or even slightly below, my level. And I have no problems following English or making myself understood, but I will still never be able to express myself as clearly and as articulate as I am able to do in my native language. This is especially true when speaking.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by TaylorAlexander on Friday November 06, 2020 @04:27AM
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Yep. As the article simply puts it, he was an English teacher.
Re:Jack Ma fell to earth and took Ant's mega IPO with him
by franklampard on Friday November 06, 2020 @09:37AM
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He would say exactly the same stuff in Chinese. He is just arrogant and abusive.