About the security content of iOS 12.4.9

Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by diebeforei485 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @04:43PM (#25002338)

Apple uses this metric as well[1]. If something hasn't been sold by Apple for 5 years (but less than 7 years), it's considered vintage and you can still get hardware service and certain critical software fixes, though not necessarily any new features.

The support for MacBooks is actually great. Certain Late 2013 and Mid 2014 Retina MacBook Pros, while considered vintage, will be receiving the Big Sur update[2].

1. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624 2. https://www.apple.com/macos/big-sur-preview/ (at the bottom of the page)

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by ValentineC on Thursday November 05, 2020 @05:10PM (#25002616)

> The support for MacBooks is actually great. Certain Late 2013 and Mid 2014 Retina MacBook Pros, while considered vintage, will be receiving the Big Sur update.

I think it's more likely that Apple's new frameworks don't require any fancy hardware features that aren't available in the Late 2013 MacBook Pros.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by diebeforei485 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @05:30PM (#25002799)

It's true that laptop computers have not changed as much over the years. This in large part because Intel CPU's and architecture have not changed as much, while iPhone CPU's have improved by leaps and bounds.

I wonder how much this might change when Apple Silicon comes to the Mac.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by snazz on Thursday November 05, 2020 @08:11PM (#25003874)

It feels like smartphones are stabilizing as well. I don't see myself needing to replace my iPhone 8 for a while, even though there have been three more generations afterwards. An iPhone 5 felt much more outdated at the time of the 6s/SE.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by diebeforei485 on Friday November 06, 2020 @03:45PM (#25010975)

Agreed - since 2017 the main improvements have been to the cameras, plus some improvements to efficiency, and (depending on your carrier) 5G.

I find 5G (coverage on mid-band, not the hyped speed on ultra-wideband) to be the most compelling reason to upgrade my phone this year.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by read_if_gay_ on Friday November 06, 2020 @05:01AM (#25006473)

Having owned a 5S, 6 plus, and now XR, the all screen design is a much bigger upgrade than iPhone 5 vs. 6S in my opinion.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by jsjohnst on Thursday November 05, 2020 @10:43PM (#25004677)

> I think it's more likely that Apple's new frameworks don't require any fancy hardware features

Mojave and higher isn’t “supported” on the cheese grater Mac Pro’s despite it running more than fine, including with FileVault 2 enabled on the boot volume (which an Apple exec tried to claim was technically not possible).

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by miles on Friday November 06, 2020 @12:01AM (#25005047)

> Mojave and higher isn’t “supported” on the cheese grater Mac Pro

The 2010 and 2012 Mac Pros officially support Mojave with a compatible video card:

Install macOS 10.14 Mojave on Mac Pro (Mid 2010) and Mac Pro (Mid 2012) https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by jsjohnst on Friday November 06, 2020 @07:07AM (#25007032)

Yeah, my sentence structure leaves a bit to be desired. The key there is including FileVault being enabled.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by mulmen on Thursday November 05, 2020 @05:50PM (#25002957)

I have a Mid-2014 RMBP, there's nothing wrong with it at all. It's sad to think OS support may be dropped in the next few years.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by jmnicolas on Friday November 06, 2020 @02:15AM (#25005674)

Yes, we're bombarded with guilt messages about us destroying the planet but even when we want to do the right thing there's no path available.

I have an old Samsung tablet that doesn't work anymore. I could try to change the battery for 20€ or buy the cheapest tablet on Amazon for 40€

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by chrisweekly on Thursday November 05, 2020 @06:32PM (#25003285)

Still rocking my maxxed-out 2012 mbp15r here.

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Re:About the security content of iOS 12.4.9 by newman314 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @09:31PM (#25004319)

Ahem, rocking my 2009 MBP running Catalina =D

Although this appears to be the end of the line as there is no graphic acceleration support in Big Sur

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