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Re:Python overtakes Java to become the second-most popular p... by rantwasp on Thursday November 05, 2020 @10:51AM (#24999261)
> I'm writing some Java at the moment for an Android app, and it's just killing me after doing Scheme and Python, but I have to admit, if that start-up had used Java or C#, they might have been better off in the long run.

that’s a logical fallacy. chances are that if they used Java or C# they might be dead by now (ie it sucks but usually it’s a good problem to have)

Re:Python overtakes Java to become the second-most popular p... by iainctduncan on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:19AM (#24999478)
I know what you're getting at, and I agree with the sentiment very often, most of the time even. But in this particular case, I don't think so, and believe me, I spent a lot a of time thinking about that....
Re:Python overtakes Java to become the second-most popular p... by miku86 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:30AM (#24999569)
So what are your thoughts?
Re:Python overtakes Java to become the second-most popular p... by iainctduncan on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:41PM (#25000183)
Uh hard. First, maybe don't buy companies with bad technical debt, just start from scratch? And always prefer two experts to 10 juniors in the beginning even if you move more slowly at first. I don't know what would have worked well in that particular situation, but if I were to do it again and could influence the original team, I'd use Clojure. I believe the immutability and control of side effects would have been more of a benefit than types. That was where the real problems came from, dynamic ability to create out-of-sight side effects and alter data in unexpected ways all over the damn place. Clojure's immutability plus spec would have been way better.