Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in your terminal

Re:Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in y... by jacquesm on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @03:38AM (#24977673)

As the boss of a company: micro managing your employees to the point where you dictate exactly how they work including their preferences for editing text is an excellent way to lose your best talents, who will likely be quirky and in some cases - possibly this case - know more about this than you do. And no, it is not 'like an electrician refusing to wear protective clothing', it is much more like an electrical engineer that knows when to use auto-routing and when to route things themselves.

Besides, I'd love to see you make your case to HR: "I want to fire this person because they don't edit their text like I do".

Good luck with your career as a boss.

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Re:Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in y... by 59nadir on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @05:01AM (#24978134)

While I wouldn't want to fire someone for using bad/incomplete/incapable tooling, the Nth time someone doesn't follow the style guide (which is automated for everyone else, but not for this guy because his 1337 editor doesn't support it) or leaves bugs in that are caught automatically for everyone else because of editor support it's time to consider if his constant breaking of convention is an issue and he either needs to use more capable tooling or leave.

Less extreme than the previous poster, I'd actually like to provide JetBrains licenses for my teams and strongly suggest using them. The amount of help WebStorm, PyCharm, etc. give is honestly way too much to pass up and the kind of uniformity you can get from everyone using them is great, all out of the box.

I used to only use Vim and Emacs but there's no question they're much more incomplete tools for development. I don't see why one would pass up JetBrains IDEs considering they have a passable Vim mode and for the languages they have plugins and/or product lines for they're just better.

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Re:Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in y... by jacquesm on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @05:12AM (#24978174)

Yes, but that's different. You are judging people by their output, not by their tools, and that's just fine.

I've seen people produce absolute miracles using fairly archaic tools showing a very deep level of understanding of both the problem and the domain. Forcing them into some kind of straightjacket to use 'modern tools' would be the same as taking Itzhak Perlman's Soil Stradivarius away to force him to play on an electric violin just to get with the times.

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Re:Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in y... by wtetzner on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @10:40AM (#24980601)

For things like formatting/finding bugs, shouldn't those be command line tools anyway, so they can be built into your CI?

Even if not, there's no reason not to allow someone to edit text however they like, and then just load their changes into Intellij or whatever to double-check formatting and use its static analysis tools before raising a pull request.

> I don't see why one would pass up JetBrains IDEs considering they have a passable Vim mode and for the languages they have plugins and/or product lines for they're just better.

I use Intellij at work for Java stuff, and I could easily see why someone would want to use something less resource intensive (especially for less IDE-dependent languages than Java). I regularly run into issue where I get pauses while I type.

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Re:Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in y... by drran on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @02:30PM (#24983058)

> I regularly run into issue where I get pauses while I type.

Close your web browser or install "auto tab discard" plugin.

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Re:Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in y... by wtetzner on Wednesday November 04, 2020 @02:37PM (#24992311)

I should clarify. It happens in Intellij, not in the browser.

I can have Intellij, Firefix, and Chrome all open while typing in emacs and no typing pauses at all.

On the other hand, I can run Intellij alone with no other applications open, and still get pauses while typing.

It's an issue with Intellij itself, not a matter of system resources.

That said, at least for Java, I find the benefits outweigh the costs. But I don't find that to be true for any other language I use.

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Re:Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in y... by svennek on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @11:34AM (#24981149)

> I don't see why one would pass up JetBrains IDEs considering they have a passable Vim mode ...

Because I am suspicious of "the magic" of those IDEs..

I truly respect the "old" code, I mimic the coding (and naming) styles/conventions of any code that I work on.

My goal is that (except when cheating with git-blame) others cannot divide the code between original and added by me...

And it is definitely NOT a question about cost.. I am willing to (and have) spend a lot of money on good tools.

But for me, 2/3 of my time goes to thinking and 1/3 of my time goes to writing/typing...

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Re:Ox is a fast text editor, written in Rust, that runs in y... by drra on Tuesday November 03, 2020 @10:36AM (#24980562)

This may only apply to junior people. Take James Gosling's super dense style of coding and disregard for style guides. These ultimate geeks would just leave.

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