Tunnels in the US cost more than anywhere else

Re:Tunnels in the US cost more than anywhere else by rhizome on Monday November 02, 2020 @04:51PM (#24973863)

My Dad used to like telling a story about how when BART first opened, none of the trains had overhead bars because the trains were supposed to run so often nobody was going to have to stand.

It's kind of wild that that wasted space for MUNI underground is not a bigger complaint in the main. My fantasy is that the last 20 years of tunnel computerization for MUNI was going to result in multiple trains per station, or hooking multiple lines together at the entrance of the tunnel (IIRC they did this with the Boeing trains until the Meltdown and Bredas) in order to utilize the whole station length.

Or shrink and simplify the MUNI parts, there's no (apparent to a rube like me) reason MUNI stations have to be the same length as BART stations. Make 'em a single block long with NYC style foyers: attendant, turnstiles, ticket machines. No flowers, no coffee, no Jehovah's Witness tables.

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Re:Tunnels in the US cost more than anywhere else by diebeforei485 on Monday November 02, 2020 @08:21PM (#24975379)

Yeah. BART was meant to be driverless so they could have many frequent trains (possibly with fewer cars) instead of infrequent 10-car trains.

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Re:Tunnels in the US cost more than anywhere else by mistrial9 on Monday November 02, 2020 @10:45PM (#24976099)

in the earliest days of the BART, I believe I saw the BART train doors open on the wrong side of the train, at the Rockridge station. Also those dumb LED destination signs by DAKtronics lasted decades; some may still be in place.

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