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Re:How to Navigate Being the Only Woman on Your Team by klyrs on Sunday November 01, 2020 @06:13PM (#24963388)
As I said, "for example" -- it's a 118-page paper that contains much more than that single table. Which, by the way, summarizes a full year of oral arguments at the supreme court -- not actually a small sample size, but a total dataset.

And yes, there is much nuance in the article, and they do consider and analyze confounding factors, but your cherry-picked quotation seems to indicate a lack of genuine curiosity on your part.

Re:How to Navigate Being the Only Woman on Your Team by ColanR on Sunday November 01, 2020 @08:17PM (#24964053)
Yes, you did give an example. The quote I referenced is from the discussion in the article of the example you gave - even inside the quote it makes an explicit reference to the table you pointed me to. You're welcome to make another example, but I was specifically responding to the one you gave. That's not cherry-picking, that's a totally relevant counter-example to the one you gave.

> not actually a small sample size, but a total dataset

Guess I didn't articulate super well. That dataset only covers a very small number of people in a very artificial environment - top lawyers dissecting legal matters from opposite sides of almost every spectrum is hardly an environment representative of e.g. general conversation. Sure, there's a lot of observations made over a period of time, but it's observations of only 9 people, which is a really tiny group when you're trying to make any extrapolation at all to the general population, even if the circumstances had been anything approaching normal.

> your cherry-picked quotation seems to indicate a lack of genuine curiosity on your part

Are you trying to make a personal jab, or was that just accidental? Maybe 'interrupting' isn't the only interpersonal (systemic?) abrasion that might need fixing in society...

Re:How to Navigate Being the Only Woman on Your Team by klyrs on Sunday November 01, 2020 @08:32PM (#24964131)
It's not just a tiny group. It's the most influential group of 9 people at the very top of an egalitarian system of law. Do they represent all of us? No, not perfectly. They should represent the best of us.

One reason that this study exists is that it's a deliberative body with excellent records. It would be great if longitudinal studies of huge populations existed, but that would require ridiculously expensive (and highly invasive) data acquisition.

Re:How to Navigate Being the Only Woman on Your Team by ColanR on Sunday November 01, 2020 @08:59PM (#24964246)
> It would be great if longitudinal studies of huge populations existed, but...

That's the problem, isn't it. There's so many things we would know if only we had better data. However, until we actually have useful data, we have to simply acknowledge that there is insufficient data to say anything worth saying. To do otherwise is unscientific.

Re:How to Navigate Being the Only Woman on Your Team by disown on Sunday November 01, 2020 @07:02PM (#24963672)
> Which, by the way, summarizes a full year of oral arguments at the supreme court -- not actually a small sample size, but a total dataset.

It's a "total dataset" of the most narrow and small sample size possible. You are being very deceptive here by trying to dismiss the guy's concern over small sample size with "total dataset" as if that compensates for a minuscule sample size. The supreme court ( all nine or so members ) and the oral arguments isn't a sample size worth drawing any objective general conclusions from. You might as well draw general physical conditions of americans based solely on the los angeles lakers.

> And yes, there is much nuance in the article, and they do consider and analyze confounding factors, but your cherry-picked quotation seems to indicate a lack of genuine curiosity on your part.

You are projecting here. The only one who cherrypicked here is you. The guy responded to your cherrypicked data.