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Re:Drivers react to Tesla’s full self-driving beta release by gamblor956 on Saturday October 31, 2020 @02:09PM (#24953779)
In Tesla's most recent report, it turns out that compared to Teslas using plain-old-human drivers, Teslas using Autopilot driver assist functions were 2x more likely to get into an accident, and Teslas using FSD were 3x more likely to get into an accident.

Any way you cut it, Autopilot and FSD are statistically worse than human drivers.

This is the only data Tesla has released comparing similar cohorts of vehicles (i.e., modern luxury cars). The only stats in which Tesla beats the average driver is where they include all cars ever put on the road, including semi trucks...but under those models every other modern car is also better than average.

[EDIT: And this is the Forbes article on Tesla's report. There's also a Cleantechnica post on the same report as well. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2020/10/28/new-te...]

Re:Drivers react to Tesla’s full self-driving beta release by jiofih on Saturday October 31, 2020 @03:57PM (#24954667)
I’m pretty sure you misread the article. City driving is 3x more likely to result in an an accident compared to highways, not self driving. The numbers are one accident every 1.7M miles for autopilot in city conditions vs an accident every 500k miles global average (including highways, for which Teslas ratio is 1 in 5 million miles).
Re:Drivers react to Tesla’s full self-driving beta release by gamblor956 on Saturday October 31, 2020 @07:59PM (#24956262)
No, I read the report. You've inverted the numbers.

If Tesla FSD was 3x safer than human driving Musk would be bragging about it. The fact that he's not indicates that my interpretation is the correct one.

Re:Drivers react to Tesla’s full self-driving beta release by jiofih on Sunday November 01, 2020 @08:49AM (#24959481)
Again, I don’t know what you’re looking at. Who’s claiming it’s 3x safer now? Where are you getting these “interpretations”? Just read the article carefully.