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Re:Joe Rogan Experience #1556 – Glenn Greenwald by refurb on Saturday October 31, 2020 @06:36AM (#24950320)
Glenn is not right wing in the least. He’s a staunch socialist.

And who cares if he went on Tucker. Is there a rule that you can’t talk to the “other side”?

And could you expand on your list of “you must say this to be on my good side”? I hear drones, anything else?

Your commentary actually sounds like an attack on everything but what his actual beliefs are.

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Re:Joe Rogan Experience #1556 – Glenn Greenwald by refurb on Saturday October 31, 2020 @07:25AM (#24950555)
You're definitely showing your hand with the hyperbole - “a rampantly dishonest fascist carnival barker who runs the most racist television show in America.” Which is patently untrue but is a great way to virtue signal.

My point was that the issues that Greenwald is famous for suddenly stopped being important around January 20, 2017

Greenwald is famous for his work with Edward Snowden. Are you saying that stopped being important? Are you mad?

And what Glenn is doing is calling out bullshit, no matter where he sees it. On the left or the right. And that's call integrity, something that apparently is a personal failing to you.

Re:Joe Rogan Experience #1556 – Glenn Greenwald by ojnabieoot on Saturday October 31, 2020 @07:55AM (#24950700)
The personal attack is unnecessary - if you’re really suggesting that me calling Tucker Carlson’s show “the most racist show in America” is a sign that I lack integrity then I don’t think you’re a person worth engaging with.

I suppose you’ll determine that a Media Matters link is inherently untrustworthy but Tucker Carlson is racist garbage, by far the worst racist on Fox News (!), and the only reason to defend him is if you yourself are racist garbage: https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlsons-...

Re:Joe Rogan Experience #1556 – Glenn Greenwald by refurb on Saturday October 31, 2020 @08:54AM (#24951041)
What personal attack? I said your description was "hyperbole". That was a comment on your post, not you personally.

And come on, Mediamatters.org? "Media Matters for America is a politically left-leaning 501, nonprofit organization which acts as media watchdog for scrutinizing right-leaning media outlets." A politically left-leaning organization doesn't like a right-wing organization? Shocking.

Let's look at an example, Tucker says “I don’t see” that “diversity is the strength of our country.” That's white supremacy? Question that diversity is a strength can be twisted to the idea that white people are better than other races? That's just complete unhinged honestly. You'd have to see the "white supremacy" boogieman around every corner to consider that an example.

Let me ask you this - how many people do you know personally, who voted for Trump? I mean, there are 63M of them, so it's not like they are hard to find. I'm going to guess, zero. But let's say you do know some. Can you articulate why they voted for Trump? I'm not asking you to agree with the reason, just can you articulate it without calling them racist?

Re:Joe Rogan Experience #1556 – Glenn Greenwald by ojnabieoot on Saturday October 31, 2020 @09:11AM (#24951156)
This is the personal attack:

> And that's call [sic] integrity, something that apparently is a personal failing to you.

And I spent my entire childhood in Oklahoma. I have friends there, and I’m the only one in the family who left (except my mom, who spent the last 5 years of her life just over the border in Texas). I know plenty of people who voted for Trump.

Otherwise, like I said, your unhinged personal attack indicates you are clearly not worth engaging with.

Re:Joe Rogan Experience #1556 – Glenn Greenwald by refurb on Saturday October 31, 2020 @09:24AM (#24951268)
Ahhh.. ok, then I apologize for the personal attack. I meant it as what you view as a failing, I view as integrity, but that's fine, I could see how you could see it as a personal attack, so I apologize.

Now, onto the 2nd point - I'd love to hear from you, in your own words, why these folks you know from Oklahoma would vote for Trump. And I don't mean the simplistic, "they're bumpkins", "they vote against their own interests", "they're all racists", I mean, in their own words, what do they say?