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Re:Edsger Dijkstra – The Man Who Carried Computer Science on... by Jtsummers on Friday October 30, 2020 @04:53PM (#24946786)
They need supervision because they haven't been apprentices gaining practical experience yet. College (especially the sciences) is not about apprenticeships. If you just want "grunt programmer[s]", we need proper apprenticeships and trade schools. Like electronic technicians and plumbers go through.
Re:Edsger Dijkstra – The Man Who Carried Computer Science on... by dragonwriter on Sunday November 01, 2020 @08:31PM (#24964117)
> College (especially the sciences) is not about apprenticeships.

It is and it isn't. Most degree programs don't require it, and some don't integrate it as a for-credit option, but most (including in the sciences) do open opportunities for them, and lots of students take advantage of that opportunity and are more employable because of it.

Re:Edsger Dijkstra – The Man Who Carried Computer Science on... by jleyank on Saturday October 31, 2020 @03:33PM (#24954482)
Some folks say the science education system is similar to the Medieval Guild systems: apprentices (grad students), journeymen (postdocs) and various levels of master craftsmen (professors). These are intended as ranks not genders, so s/men/people/g if desired.
Re:Edsger Dijkstra – The Man Who Carried Computer Science on... by dragonwriter on Sunday November 01, 2020 @08:32PM (#24964128)
Academia (not just, or even especially, in the sciences) is a guild system on those lines, but if you are looking for employment outside of academia, things are a bit different even if you need to go through some part of the academic path for the career entry you are aiming for.