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Re:Gray Wolves to Be Removed from Endangered Species List by 1-more on Friday October 30, 2020 @11:12AM (#24943051)
Eh, a hunter spends hours or days to kill one animal reasonably quickly. A farm slaughters thousands of animals after raising them in absolutely cruel conditions. If I had the goal to make animals suffer fewer creature-hours of pain then faced with the choice to either ban hunting or ban livestock, I'd go with livestock.

However if you're vegetarian, vegan, or raise your own livestock then I salute you as having a consistent stance on the issue.

Re:Gray Wolves to Be Removed from Endangered Species List by ainiriand on Monday November 02, 2020 @04:13AM (#24966057)
A hunter can fail, because he is human. He can inflict a tremendous amount of suffering killing an animal, sometimes leaving the offspring alone to die of starvation.

But if I had to choose between hunters of industrial farming, I choose hunters, of course. It is just I think we can try to fix both problems.

And yes, I am vegan.

Re:Gray Wolves to Be Removed from Endangered Species List by pcmaffey on Friday October 30, 2020 @11:14AM (#24943083)
Wolves are not livestock.
Re:Gray Wolves to Be Removed from Endangered Species List by 1-more on Friday October 30, 2020 @06:27PM (#24947461)
No they aren't. What's that have to do with anything?
Re:Gray Wolves to Be Removed from Endangered Species List by NewOrderNow on Friday October 30, 2020 @11:18AM (#24943143)
A human can eat any animal. A human can't eat any vegetation. What point are you trying to make exactly?
Re:Gray Wolves to Be Removed from Endangered Species List by pcmaffey on Friday October 30, 2020 @11:38AM (#24943352)
That people don't kill wolves to eat them. So it makes no sense to compare killing wolves for sport to killing livestock.
Re:Gray Wolves to Be Removed from Endangered Species List by NewOrderNow on Friday October 30, 2020 @11:51AM (#24943486)
The semantics is strong with this one. Livestock is a word, it doesn't change what it is. Killing for sport, population control, or any other reason is hunting.