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Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by voisin on Thursday October 29, 2020 @11:23PM (#24938806)
From what I understand, autophagy doesn’t start until 18 hours and doesn’t peak until 72 hours.
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by ravenstine on Thursday October 29, 2020 @11:33PM (#24938868)
I've never heard of that 18 hour rule. It's funny because I've read a lot about fasting, but this is news to me, and it seems like this is reported from multiple sources. But I can't seem to find any authoritative references.
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by shock on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:40AM (#24940601)
The Japanese researcher that got a Nobel Prize for discovering the autophagy mechanisms has a course on edx. Doesn't get much more authoritative than that.
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by mp3k on Friday October 30, 2020 @08:25AM (#24941495)
can you please provide the link to the course?
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by Symmetry on Friday October 30, 2020 @09:15AM (#24941874)
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by JohnGB on Thursday October 29, 2020 @11:27PM (#24938839)
Autophagy is always active, the real question is how that activity changes during fasting. The number of 18 hours is fairly arbitrary, as even after a few hours of fasting autophagy increases.
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by tracker1 on Friday October 30, 2020 @12:11AM (#24939069)
Depends on what you're eating... if you're on a keto (fast mimicking) macro level intake, you'll reach autophagy a bit faster. Heavy exercise/resistance/lifting can also help speed this up, which can also lend to timing of exercise and food intake.
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by mrfusion on Thursday October 29, 2020 @11:49PM (#24938960)
I’ve been looking for a good source but haven’t found one. Has it not been studied in humans yet?
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by voisin on Friday October 30, 2020 @12:03AM (#24939023)
I think I heard it on the FoundMyFitness podcast which has excellent discussions about fasting science. I think it may have been the last interview with Valter Longo. I’ll see if I can dig it up, but their website would be a good starting point.
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by markdown on Friday October 30, 2020 @12:46AM (#24939268)
"Someone said so in an interview" isn't really compelling evidence. Do you know of actual evidence of this? Studies?
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by _-___________-_ on Friday October 30, 2020 @03:14AM (#24939887)
No idea why you're being downvoted. Even when videos/podcasts cite studies, it's difficult to verify that the study actually supports their claim since it's often difficult to find the study they mention.

The 18 hour claim may be supported by evidence, but there isn't any in this subthread so far.

Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by hombre_fatal on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:38AM (#24939488)
Feel free to pore over thousands of scientific papers about the benefits of fasting on NCBI for us and let us know. Until then, I'll take NutritionFacts.org videos' word for it: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCddn8dUxYdgJz3Qr5mjADtA which cites scientific papers as it makes claims.
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by ConcernedCoder on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:47AM (#24939532)
Re:Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticanc... by rmoriz on Thursday October 29, 2020 @11:29PM (#24938851)
Autophagy is not a binary thing. Every body does autophagy all the time, it's the intensity/volume that increases in longer fasts.