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Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by morganvachon on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @07:39AM (#24917595)
> The lengths some people go to continue working with Windows and the hassle they are putting up with for that amazes me.

Agreed, even gaming on Linux has progressed to the point that unless you're a competitive gamer you can play nearly any Windows game on Linux thanks to Valve's Proton, as well as the advancements made by the Wine team and the growing Vulkan support by game developers.

Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by simion314 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @09:56AM (#24918748)
I am a only Linux users and I want to challenge this myth of Proton just working. To be honest I am disappointed that people are misleading others, the Proton DB website will give Platinum badge to games that don't just work See Fallout NW https://www.protondb.com/app/22380 it is Platinum but check the comments for the issues reported and workarounds that might work (I had to give up for now) , For the Gold badge see example https://www.protondb.com/app/719040 , you need custom proton versions and customization.

Can we please be honest and say that with some or a lot of work we can get many games running in Linux but is expected of you to know your way around Wine tech to configure and fix stuff.

Similar complaint about Arch/wayland/CoolShit2000 works great for me but the full truth is hidden that it kinda works if you use this DE, and this Video card, and not use that feature and you read the wiki before you do anything.

Any other Linux users that agrees with me and is tired of the misleading "it works perfect now"

Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by morganvachon on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @02:09PM (#24922130)
> "Any other Linux users that agrees with me and is tired of the misleading 'it works perfect now'"

So, I never said Proton was perfect or that it works with every game. I also mentioned Proton as only one of several technologies for playing previously Windows-only titles on Linux.

I get where you're coming from, and I have had my own frustrations with Proton in the past. With that said, even some native Linux ports have been problematic (Rust, 7 Days to Die, etc.) so it's not just Proton itself with the issues. Overall though, my experience has been overwhelmingly positive lately, and certainly far better than it was ten years ago.

Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by simion314 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @02:52PM (#24922663)
I agree that wine,DXVK did a lot of progress and I can say that is an impressive technology. The issue is that the number of games that just work is small not large as it was implied. Some popular games will have some patches you need to compile into wine or find a pre-build version with those and other less popular games don't work or worse stop working half way through(happened for me with Elex),

I would say if you want to play games on Linux that are not official you will need to be prepared for some reading and trial and error, do you disagree ?

Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by brnt on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @11:35AM (#24919961)
I will agree Proton isn't perfect, but I will also agree that outside of pro-Gamer needs, it is a platforms in and of itself that has a very good selection that I certainly can live with, and certainly seems much more appealing than e.g. gaming on MacOS.

I didn't have to configure a single thing to get excellent and bug-free performance on games like Witcher III and GTA V, and a host of others too.

Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by simion314 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @11:58AM (#24920317)
IT is true that we can enjoy mroe games on Linux then Mac users that upgraded to latest OSX.

It is also true that some games are supported by Valve and they should just work.

But there are more games that don't "just work" then games that do. I would prefer to the community would be more honest about it, like if you want to convince someone to try Linux and you show him that his preferred game is "Platinum" or "Gold" but the reality is different then the Linux community will become even more of a joke.

Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by sandworm101 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @08:58AM (#24918175)
As a linux only gamer, I wouldn't say "nearly every game". Proton has normal wine issues. Check ProtonDB for a compatability rating before buying any windows game on steam.

Most all of the games worth playing (factorio, subnautica, KPS etc) either have native linux clients or work fine via proton/wine, but the latest and greatest non-indi titles generally don't. Anti-cheat/DRM/spyware is a linux killer because it wants to inspect the operating system during play. Whatever the latest batman game is called... it probably doesn't work.

Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by the_af on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @10:32AM (#24919127)
> Most all of the games worth playing (factorio, subnautica, KPS etc) either have native linux clients or work fine via proton/wine

This is my conclusion as well. Almost everything I want to play runs on Linux one way or the other, so this has become a non-issue for me.

I agree the latest DRM'ed AAA game probably doesn't work (yet), but I wouldn't want to play it anyway.

Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by mschuster91 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @08:36AM (#24917982)
Does that also include the anti-cheat crap that is required for any online play these days?
Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by NikolaeVarius on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @08:28AM (#24917914)
Tarkov disagrees
Re:How to Dual-Boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Windows 10 with Encryption by 1_player on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @09:29AM (#24918492)
In fact it disagrees twice: I used to run Windows in a VM with GPU passthrough, performance was excellent, but I still couldn't play Escape from Tarkov as its anti-cheat allegedly started kicking or even banning users running the game in a VM.

There are workarounds to hide the fact that you're running a VM from the guest, but it's not worth the effort and in fact the more workarounds you apply, the higher the chance of getting banned if you trip their detection code.

Other than dumb anticheat software, gaming on a Windows VM is feasible, if not expensive, when Proton doesn't work.