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Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ... by sgt101 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @04:11AM (#24916420)
Let's do a thought experiment : if the above is true then it means that no thought at all has been given to launch security for the most powerful weapons in the USA's inventory. This disregard for national security has been maintained by all presidents since Kennedy and all national security officials as well. During this time any state or non state actor who gained access to the control infrastructure could have issued launch instructions, for example the USSR could have caused a launch at PRC by the USA.
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ... by manicdee on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @04:25AM (#24916495)
No, the situation is that the security is something you are rather than something you have.

To initiate a launch against PRC, Russia would have had to fake being the President and the entourage including various military brass who would have been able to confirm the identity of the elected official.

Thus the nuclear launch codes served the same purpose as red mercury.

Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ... by sgt101 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @05:15AM (#24916778)
This isn't how the launch orders are issued.

Submarines do not have a voice channel to the president, or to the military command. They receive coded signals that instruct them to take particular actions. Creating the appropriate coded signal is a fundamental part of the launch control chain.

Also if the president is killed, and the vice president and the head of the senate... eventually the question is "who has the codes" - if it was "something you are" then the first thing that an adversary would do is kill the are and then follow up as they pleased while the c&c system flailed.

Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ... by manicdee on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @04:56PM (#24924041)
The codes used to signal submarines are demonstrably not the “nuclear launch codes”. The military hierarchy is established and chain of command is already established for contingencies like “who gives orders when the top brass are assassinated.”
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ... by sgt101 on Thursday October 29, 2020 @06:34AM (#24928999)
No - they are not the launch codes, but the submarines need a launch authority. Apart from the ones that listen out for The Archers on BBC Radio 4 and then open a letter in a safe.
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ... by ncmncm on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @04:24AM (#24916492)
Breathtaking, isn't it? But it doesn't mean that, at all.

All it really means is that we were taken in by a PR scam that had nothing to do with launch security, and everything to do with getting civilians off the backs of serious soldiers who considered themselves better qualified to make decisions than the politicians.

And all it cost to run was to have one of the president's minders carry around a satchel that the press were told had "launch codes" in it. I don't know if the presidents were in on the joke, or even the minders.

Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ... by sgt101 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @05:18AM (#24916788)
So the US nuclear arsenal is commanded by the generals?
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ... by ncmncm on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @10:56AM (#24919446)
We just don't know.