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Re:The No-Code Generation is arriving by reaperducer on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @11:49AM (#24908570)
I agree. This goes back even further than that. In the 80's various "construction set" programs were all the rage. They were essentially no-code programs, many disguised as games. Later there were 16-bit solutions, like a program called "Can Do" for the Amiga. (I'm not entirely sure of the title, but I remember the splash screen had a voice shouting "I Can Do; you can, too!")

Macromedia Dreamweaver was the big inflection point because the results could be deployed on the web, for anyone to see, regardless of what box they were running.

The problem I have is that it devalues the worth of actual programmers by making everyone think what we do is easy. It isn't. I see this all the time with do-gooder charities on TV "We're teaching kids to code, and next week they'll all be billionaires!" The present themselves as if a week in a makeshift classroom is all it takes to compile and deploy a Swift app.

I've thought about this since the early part of this year when a middle manager in my company's Communications department dismissively told me that she could do my job because, "I know code." What does that even mean?

Re:The No-Code Generation is arriving by 908B64B197 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:53PM (#24910574)
> I've thought about this since the early part of this year when a middle manager in my company's Communications department dismissively told me that she could do my job because, "I know code." What does that even mean?

It's a signal to look for a better position somewhere else.

Sounds like you work at a company that considers tech to be "the easy part" or a cost center...

Re:The No-Code Generation is arriving by jonathanlydall on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @04:34PM (#24911565)
> I've thought about this since the early part of this year when a middle manager in my company's Communications department dismissively told me that she could do my job because, "I know code." What does that even mean?

Frustrating. And I know how to read and write, but it doesn’t mean I could write a decent novel.

What a lot of people don’t understand about software development is that for any non-trivial project, “coding” is the easy part, the real challenge is in the managing of complexity.

Re:The No-Code Generation is arriving by brlewis on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:11PM (#24910148)
> We're teaching kids to code, and next week they'll all be billionaires!

Sure, that's not true. But they will gain a better understanding of how to organize and process information. This understanding will help them even if they don't end up in a software engineering career.

Re:The No-Code Generation is arriving by 908B64B197 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @02:51PM (#24910551)
But think of all the social networks they could launch!
Re:The No-Code Generation is arriving by sombremesa on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @05:45PM (#24912303)
> The (sic) present themselves as if a week in a makeshift classroom is all it takes to compile and deploy a Swift app.

Even if it were, that'd still be a far cry from becoming a billionaire from nil in a week.