Re:The Nordic concept of friluftsliv – outdoor life
by howlgarnish on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @07:44AM
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In fairness, Koch/Dinkins-era NYC (the 80/90s) was pretty gnarly, with far higher crime rates than today, so I'm not surprised your mom was worried. I also had free reign of my suburban NY neighborhood, but no way my parents would have let me go explore the city solo.
Re:The Nordic concept of friluftsliv – outdoor life
by ghaff on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @08:06AM
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I did live in Manhattan for one summer in the mid-eighties when I was in grad school--quite a bit post-college. On the one hand, I (probably rationally) didn't worry about walking down Fifth Avenue or around the West Village late at night. On the other hand, there were definitely areas of the city where--if the kinda fear that if I screwed up with the metro express stops I'd be stepping out of the subway into a hail of bullets was not actually the case--I was probably also much safer to avoid certain areas. And something like 42nd Street late at night was pretty awful.
Re:The Nordic concept of friluftsliv – outdoor life
by raxxorrax on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @04:36AM
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The war on terror had a huge price tag and there is no sensible opposition. Formerly mainly driven by conservatives, liberals now seem to be afraid of 14-year-olds on the internet with predictable results.
I hope saner and calmer voices prevail in the future.
Things took a turn for the weird by the time I was in college; one summer I wanted to take the bus up to NYC to visit a friend, and my mom (who, remember, had no problem with me just taking off on my bike when I was 8) was absolutely terrified that I'd be killed. She gave me her cell phone for the trip and insisted that I call her any time I were to leave or arrive somewhere. (This was all before 9/11.)
I don't remember any sharp change in her attitude toward this at any point, so I can only assume it was a gradual thing.