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Re:How Apple Is Organized for Innovation by lotsofpulp on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:26PM (#24904234)
I use WhatsApp and Signal to communicate with people on an iPhone in the US all the time. How have I ever been restricted?

I do know that MMS is garbage, and that the mobile networks used to price gouge people for using MMS, and on top of that it doesn’t work many times, or at least it didn’t use to.

Re:How Apple Is Organized for Innovation by arvinsim on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:30PM (#24904250)
That's why he pointed out that it is marketing.

Because people believe you need to have iMessage.

Re:How Apple Is Organized for Innovation by lotsofpulp on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:32PM (#24904260)
Source? I've never see an Apple advertisement that would lead me to believe I can't use WhatsApp or Signal or any other messaging application.
Re:How Apple Is Organized for Innovation by ewired on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:43PM (#24904311)
Anecdotal sources: Every group of peers that wouldn't have excluded me from the group chat if it didn't "turn green"
Re:How Apple Is Organized for Innovation by lotsofpulp on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:56PM (#24904356)
The green means that it's technically inferior than WhatsApp, iMessage, Signal, etc. and/or you can end up with surprise international texting charges from your mobile network.

I don't have a problem with people discriminating against MMS, but everyone I know doesn't have a problem using any of the other decent alternatives that work on both Android and iOS.

Re:How Apple Is Organized for Innovation by ewired on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:18AM (#24904461)
I agree it's a good indicator, only given it isn't exclusive to a restricted platform (or expensive platform, therefore making it a status symbol). I think Signal does this right, 1. by supporting all major platforms, 2. by showing standard SMS as "dull grey" and allowing you to choose your own color for a contact (otherwise having a random color) when the conversation is Signal enhanced. On that note, I have hopes that Signal can become The One True Messenger after they iron out a few more quirks.
Re:How Apple Is Organized for Innovation by aspaceman on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:52PM (#24904340)
There’s a pretty common meme about people having green texts being “meh”. It’s weird.

Does this count as a “source” in this instance?

https://me.me/t/green-texts

Edit: found something more traditional https://www.vogue.com/article/breathless-couples-who-are-not...

pretty frustrating read though. Be warned.

Re:How Apple Is Organized for Innovation by lotsofpulp on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:59PM (#24904377)
Sounds like the green messages are doing people a favor by pointing out garbage people who discriminate against someone for not using iOS.

I'm just claiming that there is a valid use case for making it abundantly clear if a conversation is happening via MMS versus iMessage, so I didn't take it as a way for Apple to somehow "lock" people into iMessage...especially since plenty of other chat apps are a few taps away with no degradation in usability.