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Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by jjoonathan on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:25PM (#24899341)
> Taking cards is voluntary, there's no "forcing processing fees" involved.

Lol, sure. That's why they make stores promise to never, ever, under any circumstances make interchange fees visible to customers.

Hiding in the shadows is not the sign of voluntary mutual-benefit value creation, it's the sign of a good hustle that someone is hoping to milk just a little bit more before the Sauron's Eye of public attention turns their way.

Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by setr on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:28PM (#24899393)
I usually see it, but inverted: "we offer a 4% discount for cash payments" signs

But usually only in small individual shops

Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by jjoonathan on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:37PM (#24899531)
If that's allowed under the credit card processing merchant agreements it's a new development.

If I had to guess, it's still forbidden, but small shops don't know/care until the CC company actually asks them to stop.

If people could get a 5% discount everywhere with their debit card, the gig would be up, and the CC companies know it.

Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by formercoder on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @09:10AM (#24907034)
Not sure why raised public attention would reduce credit card usage. People like the convenience, and I don’t see why they would care that it shaves a few basis points off of merchants’ margins. You’ll notice that in transactions with razor thin margins, credit cards aren’t accepted, restaurants being the major exception.
Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by jjoonathan on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @10:20AM (#24907657)
If people could get "5% off" (really: not paying CC fees) by using a debit card and also use it for rent and government payments, CCs would be gone in a few years. If merchant margins are razor thin, reductions in cost go to the customer, not to the merchant's margins.
Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by throwaheyy on Monday October 26, 2020 @10:09PM (#24903871)
I’ll draw an analogy. Most tech firms will make you sign an NDA as a condition of employment. That doesn’t mean that you are forced to work there.
Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by jjoonathan on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:33PM (#24904268)
Uh-huh. Much freedom. Very liberty.

Credit card companies would get bowled over in a second if we didn't let them leverage their size into anticompetitive contract terms, but this is America! We love oligopolies, low-competition markets, anticompetitive behavior, and rent-seeking. Freedom, baby!