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Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by cashewchoo on Monday October 26, 2020 @01:56PM (#24899013)
Worth noting that credit card processors do take on credit risk, which for "normal people" is, sure, basically negligible. But black swan events (covid, for example) and fraud attacks (card cashers etc etc) are major issues.

This might be mitigated by the dominant form of payments in the regulated marks you mentioned being debit cards, which in some ways flips the equation on risk around.

However, this might not sit well with consumers. Lots of people in the US like credit cards because of the substantially superior risk profile they present (to the cardholder).

Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by toomuchtodo on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:00PM (#24899057)
Let merchants charge customers the credit transaction fee as a surcharge [1] [2], and let consumers pay to receive the benefits if they so desire. Everyone else can use debit cards now, and instant payments when they arrive in 2023-2024 [3] [4]. If it's transaction insurance customers demand, let them vote with their dollars (versus mandating everyone pay it as a transaction tax).

[1] https://usa.visa.com/dam/VCOM/download/merchants/surcharging...

[2] https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/business/overview/support/me...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24103753

[4] https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/othe...

Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by stefan_ on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:03PM (#24899090)
If card processors cared about fraud they would have rolled out chip & pin 20 years ago. They don't and the fees aren't that high because of it. The fees are so high for the profit and the stupid minigames that trick americans into having a wallet full of plastic cards for "savings" and "cashback".
Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by prostoalex on Monday October 26, 2020 @09:28PM (#24903628)
Is chip & PIN a worthwhile investment into security, considering the growing number of online transactions?
Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by yjftsjthsd-h on Monday October 26, 2020 @01:59PM (#24899045)
> Lots of people in the US like credit cards because of the substantially superior risk profile they present (to the cardholder).

How so? Fraud liability?

Re:Tech companies are clamoring to give you credit cards by cashewchoo on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:43PM (#25000209)
And headache. If there's fraud in your debit account, it's a big problem for you because the USD that got stolen were yours. That's less money you can now write a check for.

Versus with a credit card, the money that got spent is only barely yours. Sure you're gonna have to dispute it etc but if it comes to it, you could always just let the account sit with a balance while a protracted dispute process works through.