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Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by Swizec on Monday October 26, 2020 @10:41AM (#24896634)
> The diversity training definition of racism doesn't simply mean prejudiced, it means a part of a system of power that benefits people considered "white" at the expense of others

But then everyone is racist. Including black people. Everyone is part of this society that has systemic features tht benefit whites.

So if everyone is racist, what’s the point of labeling?

Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by Miner49er on Monday October 26, 2020 @10:44AM (#24896684)
I wouldn't say everyone is racist, by that definition. If you want to and are working to change or get rid of these systems, then you are not racist.
Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by Swizec on Monday October 26, 2020 @10:54AM (#24896789)
I think it’s more complicated than that based on some of the diversity books I’ve read.

For example I wasn’t even “white” until I moved to USA a few years ago. Took me 6+ years to even grok how “white” works and what it means but I’m told I was racist all along.

And yeah sure I want the system to change, but honestly I have enough work with being an immigrant without inherent rights. Hell I’m technically a visitor so I don’t even have immigration rights yet. This is not my fight to fight ... but folks say that makes me racist and privileged and how dare I.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by rayiner on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:49AM (#24897466)
I wasn't a "person of color" until 2009! (I distinctly remembered when it happened. I was reading ad copy about my law school, and saw that our incoming class was 30% "people of color." I had never seen the term before, and was confused by what it could mean, until I realized they were grouping all non-white people together.)
Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by SpicyLemonZest on Monday October 26, 2020 @12:20PM (#24897818)
It includes some white people too! No Latino would think for half a second before identifying me as white, but because I'm also Latino, I end up as a "person of color" whenever these statistics are aggregated. And this isn't a minor edge case - something like 10% of the US population is white hispanic.
Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by refurb on Monday October 26, 2020 @10:55AM (#24896794)
So whether you’re racist is determined by whether you are “working to change the system”? What does that mean?

If I do yes to BLM does that mean I’m not racist? What if I speak in support of BLM? Is that a blanket dispensation against being racist?

Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by Miner49er on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:00AM (#24896854)
Idk, I'm just trying to logically apply the definition. I don't think you could say Malcolm X, John Brown, or MLK are racist for example. It's at least possible not to be racist by their definition.
Re:‘Culture wars’ are fought by tiny minority – UK study by DenisM on Monday October 26, 2020 @11:39AM (#24897352)
That reminds me of "war to the death" - the only way you're not the enemy of the people is if you give up everything you had actively join the fight on our side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_of_War_to_the_Death