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Re:L.A.'s coast was once a DDT dumping ground, but no one co... by throwaway0a5e on Monday October 26, 2020 @08:22AM (#24895331)
The children of the people who managed to live out their days without going broke and becoming a burden on everyone else have less money than if their parents spent it all (presumably some of which would have been on them) and died with debt.

The people who lived out their days without going broke lose because their property rights are being violated. Their property and their dollars that they have already paid taxes on should be theirs to give away as they see fit.

Re:L.A.'s coast was once a DDT dumping ground, but no one co... by pessimizer on Monday October 26, 2020 @08:37AM (#24895458)
Not being entitled to something no one else is entitled to either is not a punishment, otherwise it's a punishment to me when I can't have your dad's money.

Children aren't even entitled to their parents money in adulthood. Parents have to choose to give it to them either explicitly or by omission.

Re:L.A.'s coast was once a DDT dumping ground, but no one co... by eesmith on Monday October 26, 2020 @08:53AM (#24895613)
If that's punishment for the children of the rich, then those children born to parents who are broke must also live a punished life, yes?

If you are against children being punished because of the economics of their parents, then surely you are in support for a strong social safety network for children (universal subsidized/free childcare, including meals, and healthcare), yes?

Which requires taxation or other funding sources.

Which means we must ponder things like: how much of Sam Walton's $100 million inheritance did his children need in order to not be punished by a higher inheritance tax? $5 million each?

Re:L.A.'s coast was once a DDT dumping ground, but no one co... by throwaway0a5e on Monday October 26, 2020 @09:31AM (#24895936)
The rich will still be rich. They'll come up with complex workarounds. They'll impart the money on their kids while they're still alive.

The people who will be screwed are the middle class people who's only (if any) windfall in life is inheriting part of their parents house and using that to pay off their own mortgage or send their kids to college or whatever (and who's kids will likely inherit a share of the house and continue the cycle).

Re:L.A.'s coast was once a DDT dumping ground, but no one co... by vel0city on Monday October 26, 2020 @04:10PM (#24900753)
The US currently exempts $11.5 million per person for estate taxes (IANAL). A family inheriting their parent's estate does not pay taxes on the first $23 million dollars worth of assets. Even then, taxes only apply on amounts greater than that exemption amount, so to have an estate tax take a significant amount of your estate income would require way more than $23 million. With your example its hard to claim the family is "middle class" when they're already homeowners and are inheriting well more than $23 million.
Re:L.A.'s coast was once a DDT dumping ground, but no one co... by eesmith on Monday October 26, 2020 @09:59AM (#24896212)
It seems you are making an argument from apathy - since there's nothing we can do about the rich, we shouldn't do anything?

Because we can certainly reduce the number of complex workarounds - which were deliberately introduced to allow the rich to have those workarounds. We can increase the taxation rate for the highest tax bracket, like the 90% it once was. And we can increase the estate tax.

The current federal estate tax has an exemption of $5 million. Just how many middle class families do you think would be unable to send their kids to college if the estate tax rate after the first $5 million was increased? For that matter, how many middle class families would be unable to send their kids to college of the exemption were lowered to $2 million? Because $2 million seems like a lot to me.

Poorer people will receive no windfall in life. Since you want people to have windfall ... how do you want to support poor people? How should the children of the poor go to college or whatever?

Because otherwise what you write sounds like a standard wedge argument - get the middle class to fear for losing what little they have, in order so the rich benefit even more, while the poor get left out.

Higher pay via stronger union rights (repeal Taft-Hartley now!), universal college education. These help give your desired economic windfall for the middle class and my desired windfall for the less well off.

The rich and the children of the rich will still be rich.

Re:L.A.'s coast was once a DDT dumping ground, but no one co... by adamsea on Monday October 26, 2020 @09:31AM (#24895938)
Who is a burden on everyone else, and how? I thought the whole point of ... civilization was for people to support each other.