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Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by solidsnack9000 on Sunday October 25, 2020 @10:47PM (#24892408)
I fear this is exaggeration. San Francisco has a few nice restaurants; but many, more affordable cities do just as well or better. The problem facing SF restaurants is the economics: it's so difficult to afford a place to live there, that kitchen staff definitely can not afford to do it. Combined with the relatively poor access story -- it's surrounded on 3 sides by water -- it means the core staffers have to be recruited from hours away, two hours or more. Restaurants definitely got worse in the last few years that I lived there (up until early this year).

There are exceptional cuisine resources in San Francisco, and amazing grocery stores, like Bi-Rite and Rainbow, but as a whole the situation neither benefits from the culinary community that it used to have (how many people have moved away) or from the kind of consumer that it used to have (well to-do kids just out of Stanford or a midwest school are not people who know what buffalo mozzarella is, or why you'd want to buy it, but their money rapidly became the only money that mattered).

Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by Swizec on Sunday October 25, 2020 @11:37PM (#24892617)
You’re right what counts as “nice restaurant” depends a lot on perspective.

So here’s some perspective: My entire home country has 6 Michelin star restaurants. Of those, 1 is in the capital which is the home town I’m comparing above.

SF has 7 restaurants with 3 stars.

Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by solidsnack9000 on Monday October 26, 2020 @01:03PM (#24898377)
Whether that means you're eating better food on a regular basis in SF than in many other less dense urban areas in the USA (nearly all are less dense) is a different question, though: and the truth is, you're not.

Places with stars don't have the economic situation I discussed: they have the money to really go beyond their surroundings.

Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by Swizec on Monday October 26, 2020 @01:48PM (#24898901)
The thrust of my argument is that there’s more of everything in a bigger city. As such you have more options and more competition.

The competition means that a lot of places scraping by in smaller cities can’t make it in a bigger city. In theory that means median quality is higher.

And even a 3-star restaurant won’t survive in a place that doesn’t get enough well-to-do visitors to sustain it.

For a more casual perspective, SF has 126 restaurants on the Michelin list (not all hve stars). My entire home country has 52.

Re:Nearly 12M Square Feet of Vacant Office Space in S.F by solidsnack9000 on Tuesday October 27, 2020 @12:24PM (#24908942)
None of this speaks to whether or not SF has more to offer you than other less dense cities in the US, so many of which have excellent restaurants and, indeed, better restaurants. I was very impressed with the food in Austin on a recent visit, for example. Perhaps if SF had continued on the high density curve while maintaining affordability (as Tōkyō has done) it would be a different story.

Quality food has more to do with agriculture and supply chains than money or density per se -- good salad is not something you can buy if no one is growing it -- and more and more areas in the US have made the transition to that kind of farming and production.

Now challenging SF on grocery stores -- that's another matter. They are drawing on deep roots, there.