Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet

Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by bsder on Sunday October 25, 2020 @06:26PM (#24890577)

Here's a search with big differences between DDG and Google:

"kicad convert wxpoint to millimeters"

Note how many "Autocad" entries clutter the DDG results. Google gets kicad in every single entry on the first page.

My biggest frustration with search engines is "I gave you the terms so USE THEM. Don't be helpful and omit terms you think aren't relevant."

I still miss AltaVista's interactive cluster diagrams where you could see the web of links and pick the relevant one.

If DDG simply implemented that single feature, I would never go back to Google.

The problem is that, like Microsoft in the 90's, Google will simply copy your feature if it takes off. So, there is no point in innovating in a visible way in search. That's the problem with a monopoly.

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by chris_f on Sunday October 25, 2020 @07:22PM (#24891057)

>If DDG simply implemented that single feature, I would never go back to Google.

Here you go. #2 on the list.

https://www.runnaroo.com/blog/the-search-engine-hacker-news-...

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by utopcell on Monday October 26, 2020 @02:23AM (#24893293)

This says it is serving google results: https://www.runnaroo.com/about Is that accurate ?

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by chris_f on Monday October 26, 2020 @08:26AM (#24895363)

Yes, Google is the source for organic web page results (similar to how DDG uses Bing). There are currently about 60 other sources for the vertical specific results.

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by bsder on Sunday October 25, 2020 @08:34PM (#24891570)

I don't see an interactive cluster diagram, but those search results are actually pretty good.

Thanks for this. I'll flip it to my default search for a while and see how it goes.

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by chris_f on Monday October 26, 2020 @08:28AM (#24895391)

Sorry, you're right I misread your comment. I was referring to the section about respecting the terms you want to be searched.

I know Swisscows and Carrot2 both do some topic clustering, maybe those would be interesting as well.

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Re:Apple, Google and a Deal That Controls the Internet by BRedSox on Sunday October 25, 2020 @09:06PM (#24891812)

Interesting. That’s the first I’m seeing of it.

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