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Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by ywei3410 on Sunday October 25, 2020 @01:24PM (#24887996)
I don't believe that's correct. The move, minimize, full-screen and resize seems to be part of the xdg_shell protocol (which has no extra methods for decorations and is only for window roles etc...) under the configure event [1]. I suspect that's how the tiling window managers like sway do it without extra server-side decorations.

Possibly this is a subtle distinction, but I do think it matters.

[1] https://github.com/wayland-project/wayland-protocols/blob/ma...

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Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by mort96 on Sunday October 25, 2020 @01:58PM (#24888328)
Sway does server-side decorations. It draws window borders and a title bar for you, and handles the drag events in the title bar and borders for you.

Go ahead and make a basic Wayland window in GNOME. Compare the user experience to KDE or Sway.

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Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by ywei3410 on Sunday October 25, 2020 @03:40PM (#24889255)
I believe you misread my comment; I said that the full-screen, minimize, re-size isn't part of the server-side decoration extension, but was part of a more basic xdg_shell protocol through the configure event.

I was objecting to the fact that you said that windows did not have this capability without the server-side extensions, whereas I think they can be through configure. I did not dispute whether sway had server-side decorations or not.

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