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Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by MayeulC on Sunday October 25, 2020 @11:01AM (#24886774)
Honestly, X forwarding doesn't work that well in my experience, unless you have a very stable connection, with quite a bit of bandwidth (~1Mbps at the very least). I've had more success using xpra for forwarding, as I'm often connecting over Wi-Fi (hostel, campus rooms...).

It's also rather complicated to set-up on the server side (xauth, magic cookie, etc).

waypipe, on the other hand, was a breeze to use, even though it's very young. I tried with Firefox and 500Mbps of upload capacity, it worked fine as long as the window wasn't too large.

Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by ajsnigrutin on Sunday October 25, 2020 @11:39AM (#24887076)
> It's also rather complicated to set-up on the server side (xauth, magic cookie, etc).

you mean "ssh -Y user@host..."?

Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by MayeulC on Sunday October 25, 2020 @02:17PM (#24888539)
No, that is the client side. I went back and looked at the documentation, I was wrong and conflated two ways of doing it:

- X forwarding over SSH: this only requires changing X11Forwarding in OpenSSH sshd's config

- Plain X over network, which is secured with `xhost`, insecure, and needs transfering the magic cookie or other authentication information

So, not nearly as complex to setup as I recalled, though it's much simpler to run a nested wayland compositor (which waypipe does) than a X11 server (which xpra does). The difference between X11 and Wayland remote access thins when xpra is involved.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37157097/how-does-x11-au...

Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by bromonkey on Sunday October 25, 2020 @02:18PM (#24888545)
that would be the client side
Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by sokoloff on Sunday October 25, 2020 @02:17PM (#24888532)
To me, it’s been a while since 1Mbps was “quite a bit of bandwidth”, even for WAN connections.
Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by hansvm on Sunday October 25, 2020 @02:23PM (#24888588)
Outside of major metros, in the US a lot of towns only offer up to 5Mbps down, and only then if you pay out the nose. Not sure if it matters for X forwarding, but upload caps are also ridiculously low even on otherwise reasonable connections.
Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by MayeulC on Monday October 26, 2020 @04:28AM (#24893915)
Pretty much this. With 5 Mbps down on ADSL, you can expect 300 to 500 kbps up. It can be hard to remote connect home under those conditions.
Re:The X.Org Server Is Abandonware? by MayeulC on Monday October 26, 2020 @04:30AM (#24893919)
> tried with Firefox and 500Mbps of upload capacity

That should have been 500 kbps