>Except of course BLM and Antifa physically exist

And Q... doesnt? What are you implying?

>see nearly every day in downtown Portland

>https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo

So Q doesn't exist, despite "plenty of imagery and video on twitter", but I should take "MrAndyNgo", a Twitter nobody completely at face value? I've been to Portland recently. Plenty of people were outside eating at restaurants. The "anarchy" is greatly overblown by the media.

I don't mean to downplay the impact of either movement, but to dismiss QAnon as "liberal conspiracy" when simultaneously only getting news from, what seems like a Twitter agitator, AndyNgo is concerning.

He's not a "twitter nobody", he's a blue check journalist who runs https://thepostmillennial.com/ and frequently appears on TV. All I'm saying is QAnon, if it's not a dumb LARP by some teenager, at least doesn't set police cruisers on fire and doesn't kill people for wearing a hat it doesn't like. So if we were going down the list of dangerous societal things to address it would be nowhere close to the top.

>All I'm saying is QAnon, if it's not a dumb LARP by some teenager, at least doesn't set police cruisers on fire and doesn't kill people for wearing a hat it doesn't like.

Bruh what? Qanon has incited a lot of violence. Getting someone to commit acts of violence on your behalf is worse than specific acts of violence by people that choose to do so without provocation. [0].

Anyways, comparing qanon, an anonymous conspiratorial propagandist to BLM:

>decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people. [1]

...or antifa, [2]:

>an anti-fascist action and left-wing political movement in the United States comprising an array of autonomous groups and individuals that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of both nonviolent and violent direct action rather than through policy reform.

...which are basically spontaneously formed groups of people supporting specific political causes...

  indicates that you do not understand the complexity of events since qanons appearance. yet you speak confidently as if you did and go on to condemn countless millions that support antifa or blm for their tenuous proximal association to anarchists or looters. Such irrational comparisons indicate an emotional response to whatever you perceive antifa and blm to represent.

Antifa and blm protests make specific demands at their demonstrations. Time and time again we see their demonstrations disrupted by radicalized agent provocateurs, opportunists, anarchists and others. Please disambiguate yourself when speaking about millions of people. It's easy to say an opportunistic person looting target is blm. Just as easy as it is to say anyone defending qanon, or intimidating voters by playing soldier at polling places is a proud boy/Aryan brother/whatever racist right wing group is in the news for a hate crime that day.

Proud boys, kkk, Aryan Brotherhood and countless others are violent terrorist organizations that have initial ceremonies, membership lists, and responsibilities. Antifa and blm do not. Trump can't even condemn white supremacists in the most generic of terms. On top of that he's frequently referenced q conspiracies lending whatever credibility you attribute to trump to qanon.

The link between trump, qanon, and racist terrorist organizations is stronger than any links between the countless millions of people who fly antifa or blm signs.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/15/qanon-violen...

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

The post is completely false and partisan. Trump said specifically he would denounce any group the moderator wanted. He has denounced white supremacy over 20 times on video over the past 4 years. Why so many times? Because the Democrats lie so much about him that the media keeps asking the same question. The same question was even asked at the 2016 debate with the same moderator. Then you have literally thousands of videos of people carrying antics flags, shouting BLM, and lighting things on fire, looting, etc. proud boys are not white supremacist either, they have plenty of black members and their leader is Hispanic. All it takes is a little time googling to find ANY of this or watch a legit news organization like Fox News that actually show the videos and tapes. It’s insane how many people claim Fox News to be fake or stories to be fake, but they literally show video evidence of all the violence meanwhile other media will say it’s “peaceful protests,” but for those of us there we know these protests shouting “No peace” are not peaceful.

Citation? Its so common nowadays to just claim unsubstantiated things. I.e. a video of our potus denouncing white supremacists?

Repeating the same videos of isolated incidents make BLM seem ultra-violent, but that's more of the same smearing tactics used for a decade now.

I have a good one. Here's the "fine people hoax" where he very specifically denounces white supremacists. Joe's entire campaign was started on a lie. You're being lied to by the press about nearly everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWoXwUIywQ

Second part of the quote which you have not heard so far: "And I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."

That's not a citation. That links to an alex Jones styled YouTube channel with breathless conspiratorial text superimposed over cherry pickedclips of what appears to broadcast tv, however their origin and veracity is as suspect as the person running the account.

Trump has never said: "I condemn white supremacists". Four words. Dead simple.

Here I'll say it. I condemn white supremacists. I condemn white supremacy. Your turn.

Saying they should be condemned is different.

Search: trump condemns white supremacists 20 times. It’s a video showing a lot of them and not even all.

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's weird to me that people on the left don't see how gaslit they are. It's nuts, the bubble is impenetrable.

Then prove me wrong, line by line.