On Our Abusive Relationship with Mozilla’s Firefox

Re:On Our Abusive Relationship with Mozilla’s Firefox by SimeVidas on Friday October 23, 2020 @12:14PM (#24871045)

This sounds like a bunch of ”but her emails” to me.

Mozilla and Apple are the only two companies that can realistically oppose Google’s egocentric vision of the web and prevent the web from effectively becoming Google’s platform. Simple as that.

Excuse my language, but I don’t give a flying fuck about Mozilla’s “issues” and the “abuse” I’m supposedly enduring. I want Mozilla to oppose Google, and as far as I can see, Mozilla is doing that.

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Re:On Our Abusive Relationship with Mozilla’s Firefox by klyrs on Friday October 23, 2020 @12:33PM (#24871227)

They're really not opposing google. By default, they send google every keypress in the address bar. They've also integrated google analytics to a degree that I'm quite uncomfortable with. So I kinda agree with you in principal, but in practice, they get a ton of money from Google; their CEO in particular gets a ton of money from Google, and it shows in the decisions that they've made.

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Re:On Our Abusive Relationship with Mozilla’s Firefox by SimeVidas on Friday October 23, 2020 @01:12PM (#24871650)

Mozilla opposes Google by taking a stand against some of the APIs that are shipping in Chrome: https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/.

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Re:On Our Abusive Relationship with Mozilla’s Firefox by klyrs on Friday October 23, 2020 @02:48PM (#24872545)

It's not 100% in either direction. They're opposing some stuff, but acquiescing when it benefits them directly.

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Re:On Our Abusive Relationship with Mozilla’s Firefox by SimeVidas on Friday October 23, 2020 @04:36PM (#24873819)

As far as I know, Mozilla reviews proposals based on what’s good for the web, not them. There is no “benefits them” in this equation.

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