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Re:76% of American CEOs say they may shrink office space by bamboozled on Thursday October 22, 2020 @07:21PM (#24864396)
Maybe it works?

I've noticed this as a senior engineer working for a fully remote organization that I'm delivering more, working harder and longer hours but there is zero talk of me getting a bonus or being promoted. Just more work. I had to start asking questions about it the other day.

This is my second remote job and the same experience. In between my fully remote positions I worked in an office, I was promoted and offered bonuses.

Maybe physically seeing a person working hard used to provoke some sympathy from management to offer promotions and pay rises?

The other thing I've noticed is that it seems now everyone is going remote, people are just working 12 hour days without hesitation. Whereas before, there were hard works and more relaxed types. What excuse does one have not to attend a 6am meeting when "all you have to do is open zoom"?

Re:76% of American CEOs say they may shrink office space by albacur on Thursday October 22, 2020 @07:33PM (#24864496)
Do companies you've worked for in the past normally approach you about promotions?

Maybe it's because I'm shy or bad at self-promotion, but I've never had an employer offer a promotion. Even after getting great performance reviews, I've had to fight tooth and nail or go through a promotion committee song and dance that can drag on for months or years.

Re:76% of American CEOs say they may shrink office space by bamboozled on Thursday October 22, 2020 @07:50PM (#24864612)
What I'm usually offered promotion for is having leadership skills. I don't know why or how, but it's something I naturally seem to be complimented and respected for, even though it's only that in the last year I started looking more into what it takes to be a good leader and truly try be better at it.

With fully remote work it seems the concept of leadership is changing and maybe being replaced with...scrum boards? I don't now how it works fully remote yet :) All I know is there are some successful full remote companies, but they don't really have good reviews on their leadership skills either when reading Glass Door.

Re:76% of American CEOs say they may shrink office space by jrumbut on Thursday October 22, 2020 @07:41PM (#24864542)
Most companies I've worked for have just handed out promotions at seemingly random intervals.

You could ask too but it never really went over well.

Re:76% of American CEOs say they may shrink office space by mpeg on Friday October 23, 2020 @04:43AM (#24867254)
Yeah I agree it works, I have experienced the same and been on the good side of it in orgs where I got promotions faster than the remote folks.

I'm currently working mostly remote and even though I am in the senior management team in the firm I work for I've noticed people are treating me slightly differently; even though I am sticking to my guns because I am relatively high risk for COVID.

I also let my team decide whether they want to work from home or from the office (as long as they can get to the office without commuting) and I've noticed the more junior people are keen to keep coming into the office.