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Re:Why Does Julia Work So Well? by IshKebab on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @08:11AM (#24846982)
I agree, and I think it's worse than Rust because Rust at least mostly lives up to the hype, and the main caveats (compile time, borrow checker complexity, etc.) are well known at this point.

How many people know that loading the graph plotting library takes 30 seconds, and that is working as intended?

https://github.com/GiovineItalia/Gadfly.jl/issues/251

I've tried to use Julia a number of times and the experience is always worse than Matlab.

Re:Why Does Julia Work So Well? by dklend122 on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @08:14AM (#24847006)
"the", graph plotting library? There are several and gadfly isn't the most popular.

Compile times have dropped precipitously, around 5 sec on master for plots.jl. less than one second if you use the package compiler.

This doesn't purport to be a review of Julia, it's one small part of a tutorial series so not sure why you are expecting a discussion of every trade-off.

Also, what part of Julia is being oversold here?

Re:Why Does Julia Work So Well? by Tomte on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @08:15AM (#24847010)
> and that is working as intended?

I cannot reconcile your claim with those quotations from the GitHub issue:

> It's frustrating, but I don't think it's a permanent situation. A lot of work has already been done on pre-compling Julia code, and when that's extended to packages, things should be much better.

> Making this stuff more convenient is definitely desirable and will happen.

> Agreed. But do keep in mind that the procedure I outlined allows you to avoid precisely this problem, with very little effort

> That would be nice. It will happen when someone makes it happen.

Re:Why Does Julia Work So Well? by stabbles on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @08:28AM (#24847101)
The issue is from 2014...

For "recent" development, there's a lot of work going into fixing latency issues and improving load times of packages generally: https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/pulls?q=is%3Apr+label%3Al...

Re:Why Does Julia Work So Well? by FranzFerdiNaN on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @08:29AM (#24847106)
It's totally fair and honest to take an issue from 2014(!) and go ''well this is why X sucks''.