Re:What ORMs Have Taught Me: Just Learn SQL (2014)
by hackerfromthefu on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @03:59AM
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It makes sense .. if all you have is a hammer ..
The problem is exacerbated though by the amount of churn on styles of hammers, and newer developers are often too hammered to pickup other tools ..
Re:What ORMs Have Taught Me: Just Learn SQL (2014)
by TeMPOraL on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @12:15PM
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I've noticed this about few things. Regular expressions are another - they have this bad reputation as "write-only, magic one liner hacks" that should absolutely be avoided. The proposed alternative is usually one or more dozens of lines of manual string operations in a loop. It feels like it doesn't enter the minds of people in some companies I worked in that regular expressions are a separate language, one that you should learn.
Re:What ORMs Have Taught Me: Just Learn SQL (2014)
by cptwunderlich on Wednesday October 21, 2020 @05:12AM
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And layers of abstraction make it worse. Devs don't know SQL because Hibernate, now new devs rely on the "auto-magic" of Spring Data JPA and don't now Hibernate...
I have noticed that over the years the knowledge of SQL eroded a lot in population of Java developers. Not only that, but the design of application seems to be lacking. Where problems could easily be solved with a little bit of efficient SQL people mindlessly accept huge performance losses due to ORM as if they just did not see other possibility.