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Re:Combating abuse without backdoors by zeusflight on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @12:40PM (#24839484)
I missed that point earlier. Thanks! However, it still sounds complicated. Granted it's open source. But I feel that the fundamental reason why we are in this social media conundrum is the on-cloud platform-wide message feed manipulation. What if matrix and other social media were just channels that didn't manipulate the feed in anyway (no filtering or sorting)? What if the feed manipulation was per-user? On client-side like a personal rspamd, or as per-user on server profiles like sieve? There could be several competing filters, all of which could be adjusted by user to varying degree. Some filters could be learning ones and some could be for special cases (like child filters). There would be no single point of attack, and therefore harder to do social engineering by manipulating the feeds.
Re:Combating abuse without backdoors by Arathorn on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @01:41PM (#24840244)
> What if the feed manipulation was per-user?

> Or client-side like a personal rspamd

> Or as per-user on server profiles like sieve?

> There could be several competing filters, all of which could be adjusted by user to varying degree.

> Some filters could be learning ones and some could be for special cases (like child filters). There would be no single point of attack, and therefore harder to do social engineering by manipulating the feeds.

This is precisely what we're trying to propose in the original article :)

In terms of UI, visualising the filters could be as simple as "98% of the rooms in this list have been hidden by your #nsfw filter", letting you peek behind the filter to see what you're missing, etc.

Re:Combating abuse without backdoors by zeusflight on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @04:40PM (#24842136)
Great! Does that mean that I can design and plug in a custom feed filter logic?
Re:Combating abuse without backdoors by Arathorn on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @05:36PM (#24842597)
Sure! you could get experimenting on the current basics via https://github.com/matrix-org/mjolnir today.